Which was the better win, Hopkins vs Pavlik or Calzaghe vs Lacy

It was stupidity on the bookmakers part then that Pavlik was such a favourite, it was all based on the Taylor results, forgetting that Hopkins was a ****ing light heavyweight by now and Kelly n Jermain were still middles

 

Oh and ****, I forgot to add the most important factor, Hopkins had lost a narrow decision to Joe Calzaghe, the bum who Pavlik was supposed to beat

 

Easy to say it's "stupidity" now when the result is clear and easily available for the viewer's pleasure. But back then everyone picked Pavlik to obliterate Hopkins who was 44 years old and coming off a loss to Calzaghe. I remember picking Hopkins to win and being literally showered with laughter both online and to real life friends.

No offense, but the real stupid people are the ones that overlook these facts and pretend to be smart experts that "knew it all" when results are already out.

 

I'm not trying to be smart, like I just admitted, I forgot the most important piece of information, everyone lost faith in Hopkins because he got outhustled by Calzaghe..Why? well, because you all under-rated how good Calzaghe was, thankfully Hopkins went on prove that this was not a "shot" man that Calzaghe beat (It's kind of hard to make that argument now 6 years later but I was literally showered with laughter too for saying Calzaghe did not beat a shot Hopkins)

 

No one lost faith in Hopkins considering the Calzaghe fight was close anyway and it was Calzaghe who was knocked down and stunned numerous times during the fight. People just rated Pavlik highly and for good reasons, he had vicious KO power, a granite chin and first class stamina. Sure he lacked skills but many people thought his aggression, activity and stamina will eventually overwhelm Hopkins.

As far as being showered with laughter regarding Calzaghe not beating a shot Hopkins, I'm afraid you will continue to be showered with laughter and I'll be the first to laugh. Hopkins was 44 years old going in against Calzaghe and is clearly nothing similar to how he performed in his prime. Calzaghe's fighting ability, which is definitely first class, MADE Hopkins look his age and not many fighters have the ability to do that as already proven. His speed and activity pretty much left Hopkins confused and helpless at times. Just watch how Hopkins fights, he calculates his attacks to conserve energy for later rounds. Prime Hopkins was very active, constantly in your face and rarely took rounds off. Calzaghe troubled Hopkins based on activity, speed and throwing punches from all angles nonstop, that's a nightmare of a style for a 44 year old and still it was close.

 

Right so the Hopkins who fought Calzaghe was nothing compared to the Hopkins that fought Eastman or Allen? wake up mate

Pavlik had vicious KO power yeah, at what weight? what weight did he beat Taylor? what weight did he beat Lockett? Miranda?

Not the same Pavlik who fought Hopkins

And you're the one talking up the Pavlik win yet saying Hopkins was shot when he lost to Calzaghe? WTF does that make Pavlik if he got ****ing decimated by a shot Hopkins?

 

Hopkins fought Eastman and Allen 4-5 years before facing Calzaghe. If 4-5 years is nothing to you it means a lot to an athlete in a vicious sport like this. There's a reason age is the first thing observers focus on when predicting a boxing match.

You can say he wasn't the "same Pavlik" all you want but the odds and the majority of boxing fans disagreed completely back then. It's easy to say otherwise now with the result clear and available as I previously stated. Here's an example, I would look like an ignorant lying fool if I overlooked reality and told you the majority(even though the odds were close, FAR closer than Hopkins-Pavlik and can't be compared) I knew all along that Calzaghe would destroy Lacy the way he did.

 

Good for you, and I knew Hopkins would beat Pavlik

Just like I knew Calzaghe would have beat Pavlik (and destroyed him) yet nobody back then would have argued for that and I certainly got shat on for it, now I dare anyone to argue AGAINST that

 

God these Brits dik ride Calzaghe like no one else

 

Calzaghe's win over Lacy was a great and much underrated win by the Welshman.

But Hopkin's win over Pav was greater.

 

Good for you.

 

I predicted that Hopkins would stop Tito right here on ESB.

Calzaghe came into Hopkins' home turf and beat him...................really good win.........

 

Should have been Kessler instead of ****en Lacy

 

Hopkins for sure .... was like a 3/1 underdog and beat the crap out of a game fighter in Pavlik ... Pavlik hasn't been the same since