Which was the better win?

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The Better Win

  1. Joshua over Parker

    60.6%
  2. Wilder over Ortiz

    39.4%
  1. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dispute what I said in a concise manner or don't
    mention me.
     
  2. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Both fights were closer than the official cards showed.
    Parker was far more proven than Ortiz with a better resume and a Champ in his own right.
    Better stamina and far more durable and obviously younger.


    Ortiz has a better overall skillset, had far better coaching and was more prepared for his opponent.

    Both home fighters got preferencial treatment from the ref and the judges.

    Overall....

    Wilder made for the FAR MORE EXCITING FIGHT.

    Joshua got a nominally better win
     
  3. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Lewis v Rahman.
     
  4. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Would you agree that Parker is a faster puncher and fitter than Ortiz?
     
  5. Fashionista

    Fashionista Style over Sport banned Full Member

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    Wilder- Ortiz clearly. Parker is bang average.
     
  6. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Joshua. If you were to ask which was the better fight then Wilder Ortiz, by some distance, but you didnt.

    Parker was a young, fit, unbeaten world champion who had come in in the best shape of his life, with his arms working properly and was supposed to give Joshua loads of problems even if he didnt beat him. None of that happened. Joshua controlled the fight (just about but he did) behind an improved jab.

    Ortiz was old, older than he claims, has heart trouble or blood pressure trouble and was not a world champion, nor has he ever been one. He was supposed to give Wilder a few problems and he gave Wilder lots of problems and Wilder was very lucky to make it out of the 7th.

    Not a tough choice as far as im concerned.
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Wilder's win was more important to his legacy, but overall both fights are a wash. Wilder's fight legitimizes him to a greater degree.
     
  8. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    What the win over Parker shows us is that Joshua beats Ortiz more comfortably than Wilder did.
     
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  9. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes but not well prepared.

    Ortiz game plan to pressure Wilder off the front foot had him winning most of the rds before his chin let him down.

    Parker's plan to outbox the taller less durable Joshua with his shorter arms was absurd and his team made NOTHING off Luigi's interference during the fight.

    Roach, Mayweather, Manny(RIP), Virgil, Abel etc etc would have been calling out Luigi's interference between every Rd.

    Garcia and Teddy would have been on the apron screaming at him during every illegal break.
     
  10. OpinionOfACasual

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    Another guy arguing that Wilder's win is better because his resume is worse.

    It doesn't work like that.
     
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  11. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    Both were very good wins. Wilder ortiz was just a better more entertaining fight.
     
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  12. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    But Ortiz's plan isn't effective against a decent jab.

    e.g. Lewis v Tua.


    Wilder is meant to have the best jab in the division, but it wasn't present against Ortiz.
     
  13. thesmokingm

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    I'm not arguing **** so stop acting like the defender of the whatever the ****.
     
  14. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You said that Wilder's win was more important to his 'legacy'....how?

    Wilder beat an undefeated challenger

    Joshua beat an undefeated champion
     
  15. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Wilder was getting his ass kicked and showed 0 boxing ability intill he landed his power

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