Which weightclass has the most atg's

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  1. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    As per title, can be your own ranking of atg criteria.

    Maybe which class has the top5 p4p ?

    Should be interesting?
     
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  2. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Nice topic.

    The Light Heavyweights spring instantly to mind with probables/possibles like -

    Ezzard Charles
    Harry Greb
    Archie Moore
    Gene Tunney
    Michael Spinks
    Bob Foster

    That's a very strong lot with some success at Heavyweight as well. Middleweight doesn't have a lot of P4P success at higher weights excepting Hopkins, Welter has some with SRR and SRL.
     
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  3. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Very strong opening gambit!
     
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  4. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's all opinion. The p4p nonsense was created to be stacked in favour of smaller guys and against the heavyweights since the heavies were already the greatest h2h fighters due to their size and power but it you are making a list of atg's then the heavyweights have in no particular order the likes of

    Dempsey
    Johnson
    Louis
    Ali
    Holmes
    Marciano
    Tyson
    Lewis
    Wlad Klitschko
    Foreman
    Frazier
    Holyfield
     
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  5. Gudetama

    Gudetama Active Member Full Member

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    I'll go for Middleweight. The top 9 fighters on my Middleweight list all feature within the top 20 on my P4P list:
    1 Greb
    2 Robinson
    3 Ketchel
    4 Monzon
    5 Hagler
    6 Fitzsimmons
    7 Langford
    8 Walker
    9 Burley
     
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  6. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Solid list!
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Gans
    Leonard
    Duran
    Whitaker
    McFarland
    Ortiz
    Williams
    Welsh
    Canzoneri
    Ambers
    Brown
    Mandell
    McAuliffe
    Erne
    Lavigne
    Angott
    Armstrong
     
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  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Looking in a May 1994 Ring they have the following.
    Hvy
    1Ali
    2.Louis
    3.Johnson
    4.Marciano
    5.Dempsey

    Lhvy
    1.Charles
    2.Moore
    3.Foster
    4.Tunney
    5.Loughran

    M
    1.Robinson
    2.Monzon
    3.Greb
    4.ketchel
    5.Hagler

    W
    1.Armstrong
    2.Robinson
    3.Leonard
    4.Ross
    5.McLarnin
    L
    1.Duran
    2.Leonard
    3.Gans
    4.Canzoneri
    5.Williams

    F
    1.Pep
    2.McGovern
    3.Attell
    4.Saddler
    5.Sanchez

    B
    1.Zarate
    2.Jofre
    3.Olivares
    4.Ortiz
    5.Brown

    F
    1.Wilde
    2.Canto
    3.Perez
    4.Genaro
    5.Lynch
    To paraphrase Eric Morecombe.
    I'd say they are most of the right names ,but not necessarily in the right order!
    If you can afford to leave out Conn , & Langford I think you would have to concede the 175lbs division takes some beating.
     
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  10. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    obviously middle - it has the largest body of fighters.
     
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  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Light heavy just edges heavy here.
     
  12. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    If, as the name implies, this is closest to the weight the average guy can most easily fight at, it would stand to reason that it would also have the deepest pool of talent.