which win do you rate higher

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  1. port64 jr

    port64 jr Active Member Full Member

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    jones over toney


    or

    pacquiao over de la hoya

    think about it

    jones went up from 160 to 168 to fight arguably the best p4p fighter at the time and won every round and schooled him


    pacquiao went up from 135 to 147 and fought cash cow de la hoya who was coming off a split decision loss to mayweather and a decent win over forbes and beat him from pillar to post

    now

    toney was however considered to have lost a rediculous amount of weight and was on a drip over night where he rehydrated to something like an extra 25 pounds, which could show he really struggled with weight rather than getting into fighting shape


    de la hoya was fighting at 154 against mayweather 19 months earlier and 150 7 months earlier


    now to be honest oscar looked pretty skinny at both them weight but hes never really had a jeff lacy body figure

    he was fighting 7 pounds under his supposed usual fight weight but only 3 pounds under his usual fight weight

    now considering this, seemed rather dumb he left it until really late to even bother (if he did at all) to rehydrate himself



    also he was way past prime when toney was definatley now


    however, a move from 160 to 168 is easier than 135-147


    i personally think jones win was as toney had pretty spent his entire career battling with weight and befriending burger king

    whilst many think of de la hoya as lazy and the fact that he may not have over trained but been under weight and under prepared with like 50 different career trainers

    plus roach knew alot about him

    SO WHICH DO YOU THINK WAS THE MORE IMPRESSIVE WIN:bbb
     
  2. horst

    horst Guest

    Jones-Toney is the clear winner. Both great performances, but Jones-Toney was a significantly better win.
     
  3. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Toney was at the top of his game and one of the best in the sport. De La Hoya was doing more crossdressing than boxing when Pacquiao beat the stockings off him. That's not to belittle Pacquiao's win, because it was more significant than most give him credit for, but this is a terrible ******* thread, and that's coming from a huge Pacquiao fan.
     
  4. larrysmith

    larrysmith Guest

    Oscar wasnt even a factor in boxing when manny fought him(sre manny went up 2 divisions but a old oscar dropped one....roy and james were both prime and p4p......clear winner
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    He doesn't know who James Toney is
     
  6. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Both were similarly dominant performances. Even if Toney was weight-drained some have claimed, nowhere near as bad as Oscar. Plus Toney was in his prime and top 3 P4P, Oscar was some way past his best.
     
  7. The Executioner

    The Executioner Member Full Member

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    Jones by a landslide.

    Why would you even compare these two fights? Manny has better wins on his resume than Oscar.
     
  8. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DLH was shot.
     
  9. jonnytightlips

    jonnytightlips Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones. DLH was weight drained to **** but we didnt know that before the fight so..
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Jones win over a prime James Toney is one of the best wins of the era.:deal