Which win was more significant Mayweather tko10 Hatton or Pacquiao ko2 Hatton

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  1. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    First off... no I have not read the whole thread. However, I think Pacquiao's fight was more significant than Mayweather's fight against Hatton. While Mayweather did fight Hatton while he was still undefeated and was gaining momentum again after a few lack luster perfomances, the fight was at 147, (not really Hattons best weight) and from what I remember Floyd was the favorite. With Pacquiao we have a guy that's too small and he's fighting Hatton as the Champion in his best weightclass. Not only that but opinions seemed to be pretty split up on who would take the fight and the victory Pacquiao pulled off was far more impressive and dominant than that of Mayweather's.
     
  2. Mayweather showed that Hatton could be beaten. This guy was rated high as **** and he was outclassed and broken down all night. Pacquiao beating an already defeated and demoralized is not more "significant". I think alot of haters on here are just stating which knock down they liked the best. That wasn't the damn question.
     
  3. simon850

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    Knocking out an undefeated fighter is a lot more significant. Beating a fighter who was called shot after the Mayweather fight with a supposedly poor training camp prior to Pac v Hatton in 2 rounds is a job well done, but not more significant.
     
  4. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather did not show Hatton could be beaten, he was just the first one to do it. Hatton was rated high when he fought Floyd but he moved up to fight Floyd. He fought Pacquiao at his best weight class when Pac should have probably been defending his lightweight title, but instead he became a champ in a new division. Mayweather only defended the title against Hatton. I'm not saying you can't think Mayweather's victory was more significant, but dissmising other peoples opinion just because it's different than yours is foolish. We can agree to disagree without getting our feelings hurt :good
     
  5. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would agree if it was Berto, Maidana,etc. But that was Manny Pacquiao's first fight at 140 and he became a 4 weightclass Champion with that fight. Much more significant than just defending the title against a fighter moving up.
     
  6. dangerousity

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    ****, so klitchsko beating Floyd would be more significant than mosley beating Floyd if Klitschko were to be the one to take the "0". Torrecampo's win was so much more significant than Morales win over Pac too, torrecampo took the "0" away. :lol:

    BTW, most people thought Collazo already took Hatton "0" away, his only fight at 147.
     
  7. He wasn't the first mu****a to just do it, but he was the first mu****a to DOMINATE AND KNOCK HIM THE **** OUT!!. He destroyed someone who was on the road to being considered a legend (by many). I'm not dismissing other peoples opinion because its different, its just funny to me that people make their decisions based on their mancrush and hearts for certain boxers. Rather than seeing thru ****. Trust me, I see how pac's knock out CAN be considered more significant. But I think pacs most significant win came with Cotto. The win over a demoralized retared training camp having hatton.....uh uh:verysad.
     
  8. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I find that hilarious too. You can think Pac's most significant was against Cotto and that's great. But that's not the point. The point is which fight was more significant, Floyd defeating undefeated Jr.welterchamp moving up to WW while defending his WW championship or Lightweight Champion defeating natural Jr.WW Champ and gaining a 4th Championship. Pac's victory being head and shoulders better than Floyd's is just the cherry on top :cool:
     
  9. Well if you are looking at it from the standpoint of empty titles that don't really mean anything then I see your point. If you are looking at it from which fighters were where in their careers then you should see my point.
     
  10. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do, and don't get me wrong, I think it's a close comparison and I'm by far a Floyd hater/hugger and the same goes for Pac. But if I look at where they were at the time they fought I would have to say Floyd was the WW Champ and was fighting Hatton who was gaining momentum back after a few lackluster perfomances (something I already pointed out) but who was also moving up and not fighting at his best weight. With Pac we have, the guy who put on a spectacular perfomance against a drained DLH but was too small for the jr.ww champ who was going to test him with his strenght and punching power. Hatton is the jr.ww champ and is fight the smaller fighter at his best weight. Sure he had already been stopped, but he had looked like gold against Malliggnaggi with head movement, feints, etc.
     
  11. Daithi

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    Mayweather was the first to beat him, Hatton was damaged goods with a disastrous trainer when pac beat him. Not a diss at pac, he can only beat whats in front of him
     
  12. Barnburner

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    I don't understand why people think Pacman's win was more important. Ricky's spirit had already been crushed by then, and been rocked a few times by Juan Lazcano (who? exactly) who wasn't necessarily a tricky bigger southpaw like Collazo was.
     
  13. crimson

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    I like that somehow that one defeat makes someone 'washed up', 'broken', 'damaged goods' and all other hyperbole. Apparently, the hundreds of fighters who have done better AFTER their first defeat don't believe in that stupid sh!t. It is really sad when people buy to this '0' record thing as important. It is really NOT that important. Of the small handful of people who retired undefeated only 2 or 3 them is considered great. And not one of them is in anyone's top 10 or even top 20.

    Let it go. It is such a juvenile and superficial way to look at boxing and shows lack of appreciation beyond the hype.
     
  14. simon850

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    :lol::lol::lol: Listen ******, I don't think you understood my post so let me break it down. Mayweather's win over Hatton was when Hatton was undefeated and considered at his prime, even though he was moving up in weight people still were saying he could beat Floyd and he was a great challenge. Floyd dominated him and knocked him out, and apart from the Referee complaints Hatton accepted he lost. Hatton later said he cried for days about the loss, which shows signs of a broken fighter.

    Under Floyd Sr. Hatton did not look very impressive against Malignaggi, and from the 24/7 footage it is clear that Hatton's claims that his training camp for the Pacquiao fight were not right, seem too be accurate claims and not excuses. Prior to the fight the report of the "bust-up" between the people in his camp couldn't have helped, and the look on Hattons face in his ring entrace said it all. After Hatton got KTFO in 2 rounds, he accepted it, however he stated even though at his comfortable weight, he was over trained, had a poor camp etc, and most people say he was done after the Mayweather fight anyway. Therefore I came to the conclusion, taking everything into account, Floyd Mayweather Jr's win over Hatton was the more significant win. :good