Which win was more significant Mayweather tko10 Hatton or Pacquiao ko2 Hatton

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  1. steele311

    steele311 Wanna Dance? Full Member

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    ^:hey
     
  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    So then when Pac lost to Morales that should of proved he didn't belong at 130?
     
  3. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Logic is useless for many of these guys. They make it sound like Collazo was like David Diaz or something. The guy is a top welterweight and Hatton beat him, and did so more cleanly then Berto who most felt lost to Collazo.
     
  4. Sinew

    Sinew The Assassin Full Member

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    Pac considering that he was a little smaller. and knockded Hatton out cold. Hatton was very consious when Mayweather was knocking him down.
     
  5. horst

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    :huh It was a fight between the lww division's number 1 and number 2. How was that engineered to make Hatton look good? It was close to a 50-50 fight between a quality swarmer and a quality outboxer. That fight was nothing resembling a Mayweather-Gatti style foregone conclusion.

    Hatton was in worse trouble vs Collazo than he was vs Lazcano. Clearly. So your point fails.

    Hatton scraped past a top 10 welter, almost being KO'd in the process. It was clear as day that he was nowhere near as effective or comfortable at 147. It was also obvious that any welter better than Collazo (like Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, Williams) would stop Hatton.

    No, that's not always the case. You can't cling to a blanket-rule because every situation is different. If Wladimir Klitschko and David Haye have a superfight in Germany this summer, a unification heavyweight title clash in front of 60,000 fans, and Klitschko brutalizes him early, would that win be worth less than Carl 'The Cat' Thompson TKO'ing a gassed Haye in a big British domestic fight from a few years ago?

    Negative. Sometimes taking the zero means more, sometimes it doesn't. Take each case on its individual merits. Pac beat Hatton in 2 rounds at lightwelter, where Hatton was proven quality. Floyd beat Hatton in 10 rounds at welter, where Hatton was not proven quality. Pretty simple choice IMO.

    We're not getting "caught up and using that", we view it as a legitimate reason.

    What was more impressive, Mayweather's win over Gatti or Micky Ward's win over Gatti?

    I'd say Mayweather's, because he barely took a punch and broke Gatti down in spectacular style, whereas Ward beat him on an MD.

    The manner of victory is always important in deciding what is the better win, of course it is.

    Boring.

    I disagree. Taking the zero is often a better win, but not always. Calzaghe lost the 1st half of the fight, then outboxed Kessler down the stretch to a points win. Ward dominated and stopped a more experienced version. In this particular case, I think Ward's win was better.
     
  6. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Pac v Hatton.

    Because Hatton was never in the fight.
     
  7. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We will have to agree to disagree. I think Hatton was a protected fighter and was over-rated, even at 140.

    Mayweather exposed him as being over-rated first, and I view that as the more significant win.

    You seem to think more of Hatton at 140 than I do. It doesn't matter if they fought at 140 or 147 to me, Hatton gets schooled by Mayweather and Pacquiao everytime regardless of weight.

    I have no idea why you people were shocked Hatton got KO'd like he did against Manny. It was not at all surprising and was very predictable. Hatton's style was perfect for Manny.

    Hatton did not even have his long-time trainer for crying out loud. His camp was rumored to have all kinds of problems. It is amazing/amusing after all the "crackhead" comments about Mayweather Sr. that people are pointing to him saying Hatton had improved because of him and his fight with Paulie Malignaggi proved that.

    Did you actually think Paulie had a chance in that fight? lol Rank or no rank, Paulie was no threat and that is why they picked him. High rank, low risk to make Hatton look good to line him up for a big payday.
     
  8. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was in the Mayweather fight? :huh
     
  9. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac. He fought Hatton @ his weight class, ko'd him in 2. FMJ fought him @ 147. Hatton was undefeated against FMJ yes, but i believe since it took Floyd (10?) rounds (although he did ko him, which was impressive for Floyd) Pac did it in 2. The ref didnt have to step in for Pac, he did it with his fists.
     
  10. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Much more than he was in the Pac fight:deal
     
  11. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Longer, but still getting pummeled most of the time.

    In both fights, Hatton was dominated in different ways. Domination is domination.

    I do not rate a first round KO higher than a dominating UD. A shut-out or virtual shut-out is as good as a KO in my opinion. If anything, it is a little more impressive as it shows consistent dominance over the other opponent.
     
  12. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Graham was throwing in the towel when it was waved off.
     
  13. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Floyd's win was more significant since Hatton was undefeated & it happened first.
     
  14. Silvermags

    Silvermags Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dude, you forgot hatton had to move up to 147lbs for him to fight pbf. it was hattons first fight above his comfort zone of 140lbs where he actually never lost.
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    WHich is what I said. Look, if you are going to be this ****in desne, might as wel add you to my ignore as well. For ****s sake man, make an effort to keep up please. And if all you can do is kinda/sorta remember what I said, don't try to use it as some fact. The fact that that needs to be explained to you is mind boggling...