Which win was more significant Mayweather tko10 Hatton or Pacquiao ko2 Hatton

Definately Pac's win. It was considered a true challenge. He beat Hatton in his natural weightclass (where he was still undefeated), and the manner in which he beat him..This win proved Pac was a legit force above 135 and the DLH win was not solely down to DLH being a corpse..It propelled Pac into serious ATG and GOAT discussions.

 

Ali did it all in the same weight weight class and Pacquiao didn't. Gaining weight , especially when you're older than 25 you lose something. Mayweather from 130 to 135 lost some power and from 140 to 147 he lost some speed. Every fighter loses something when they move up, because your body can only hold natural weight properly. When lifting weight you're gaining artificial weight, so you will slow down. It's natural and it has to happen.

Once again:

How many fighters can you name that have moved up several weight classes and bullied and physically dominated much bigger fighters?

How many fighters have moved up several weight classes and kept their speed and maybe even improved their power?

 

Collazo is a big achievement he's a top 10 WW and a former title holder at 147. He still to this day would give anyone at 147 hell ask Berto. Not to mention he's better than anyone on Hatton's resume at 140 including a shot Zoo.

Also why in the **** would the man of a division who was linear at 147 and the #1 P4P fighter in the world move down in weight to fight Hatton who had declined to fight him there years earlier? Hatton wanted what PBF had not the other way around. Just like when PBF went up to challenge Oscar and fought him on his terms Hatton went up to 147 and fought PBF on his. That's the way it works.:deal

 

Regardless, I dont think Collazo>Mallignagi p4p but even if I was to concede that he was, he isnt much better. If I was to rate these fighters out of 10 with the assumption that collazo is better, paulie would be a 7 and Collazo maybe a 7.5, its not by much. Hatton made Paulie his ***** yet struggled so much with Collazo. He couldnt handle the size. Hatton himself admitted after the fight he wasnt comfortable at 147, hence why he dropped back down to 140, only for "too small of a WW" Floyd to drag him to 147 instead of meeting him at 140.

 

Because the entire appeal of the fight was that Hatton was the greatest 140lb fighters since zoo. This would make the fight more appealing, would give Floyd more credit. Floyd was also heavily critisized for taking the least risk at 140 in fighting Gatti and skipping the division, here was his chance to grab the lineal 140lb title and beat the best 140lb fighter out there. Floyd had more to gain fighting Hatton at 140lb than 147lb.

I can only think of 1 reason why Floyd despite apparently being a small WW wanted to drag Hatton up to WW. Because he saw the Collazo performance and Hatton himself admitted he didnt like 147.

 

Really no comparison considering the way Hatton lost to both men and given the facts that surround each of the fights. Hatton was at his best at Jr WW or at 140.....When he faced Floyd Ricky moved up to 147 at Floyd's best weight where he gave Mayweather a very tough fight. When Rick faced Manny it was at Ricks best weight and PAC completely destroyed Ricky and there was NO struggle at all on part of Manny in route to the victory. Both were good wins but if comparin it's a no brainer that PAC's "W" holds more weight for obvious reasons.

 

He weighed in over 160 on fight night for Collazo and 154 for Mayweather. He acknowledged that he came in too high for the Collazo fight and would not do that for the Mayweather fight. Hatton also said that he would be able to fight Floyd at 147, but not bigger fighters. Why would Mayweather go down in weight anyway? How many fighters have gone down instead of up?

 

That's not PBF's fault. He tried to get Hatton at 140 back in 2005 when Hatton beat Zoo. Hatton declined. You can't put the blame of the fight not happening at 140 on PBF. You have to blame Hatton he turned Floyd down there back in 2005. You can't expect him to go back down to 140 after campaining at 147 for two years. Hatton's performance against Collazxo had nothing to do with it, PBF would have beaten Hatton's ass worse at 140 than he would of at 147 because he would have been quicker and had better lateral movement. PBF beats Hatton 100/100 times regardless of weight and you know it.:deal

 

A lot of fighters go down in weight....more go up but plenty go down....Jones Jr, Nard, PAC, Shane, DLH, Williams...ect. But most move up if they are good enough....those who are exceptional can do both.

 

Pac KO2 Hatton. Hatton had no success at ALL against Pac, not a second of the fight. And it was Hatton at 140 not 147.

 

Rivera, arguably Berto and Hatton. I don't have an agenda and never will. Collazo's better because he's more talented, with more skills, and better actual accomplishments.

What about my Dawson-Adamek comparison. Dawson was still a novice with no real experience and Adamek was a Light Heavyweight title holder with more real fights. Adamek had more accomplishments and more experience, so would that mean he was better than Dawson? Was Mormeck better than Haye? Was Kessler better than Ward? Was Genaro Hernandez better than Mayweather?

 

They both have elements that you could argue for. I wouldn't say the answer was definitive. Glove size, weight class, etc.

 

Tough call but I think PBF was more significant, even Hatton says he was the better fighter when he fought PBF.

I think the poll is always going to be in Pacquaio's favour as there are nearly twice as many Pac man fans as Mayweather fans.

 

Those guys moved down in weight after short stops in other divisions. Who was Roy honestly going to fight at Heavyweight? When the other guys moved down they had nothing to hold on too at the higher weights. Mayweather was THE Welterweight Champ and #1 P4P and was also dictating terms at this time. Williams moved up in the first place because no one at 147 would fight him, but he always planned on moving back down. He saw the fights at the higher weights as interim fights until one of the welters offered him a fight.

Nice try.

 

Hatton favored Floyd over Manny when asked about the fight....but I felt the same way in terms of style match up. But the signifigance of the fights and the "WINS" was the topic of disscussion. And if you look at both fights for what they were it's a clear picture that Manny's win in more than one way has more substance. Part of the reason PAC is more popular and has more fans is b/c Floyd creates drama to come off as the bad guy....he likes to think he's a gansta or a thug and he trash talks non stop....which is great! I love it b/c we need guys like Floyd...he's cocky and confident....he backs up his talk so there is nothing wrong with that...but it also isn't as fan friendly. So of course PAC is gonna have more fans and the polls will show that.