Whitaker Apologists Respond...

Certainly factors in, but not nearly as important. I value it, don't get me wrong, but it's just way too subjective, that one. I mean, for instance: Lopez vs Sorjaturong.

Neither man has an actual, visible mustache to judge, but we know that Ricardo's metaphysical 'stache would certainly trump Saman's in every single category.The problem, of course, comes when we look at fights like Mayweather-Judah. Who has the edge in mustachoeity there? Not nearly as clear cut. You'd have to switch up and go to eyebrows in that one, and that just leads to a whole cluster****.

No, best to establish a criterion around something more realistic, more easily observed and measured, more less-stupid-and-nonsensical. Why I went for jive-ass clowning. :deal

 

Do you consider Jorge Paez the best fighter you've ever seen? Or does he lack some jiveness?

 

Saman actually had an awesome Orientel Fu Manchu type 'tache between fights.

Justsayin'.....

 

Plenty of jive, but no ass. A solid 7. :thumbsup

 

I don't know as much about Asian midgets as you, but I'd say Saman was as good a between-fights fighter as anyone this side of James Toney.

 

I think Whitaker deserved the win vs Chavez but It was clear to me, that Chavez was not at his best. I never understood why that fight was at Welter. I always wondered why that fight was never made earlier. Not saying Chavez would have won, but I think it would have been a much better fight. At that time, Welter/DEBUT for Chavez, with the amount of fights he had, his age, lack of dedication/alcohol and drugs, wars in the ring and fighting one of the best defensive fighters of all time...that was too much for Chavez. That fight should have been made at lightweight or even Jr Welter. Not Welter.

 

Sweet Pea did enough coke to kill several horses. A whole ****ing stable of 'em. So there. :bart

 

If Whitaker beat Ramirez in their 1st fight, then Qawi vs Holyfield #1 is #1 robbery in history.
Because what Qawi did against Holyfield was far better than what Whitaker (never) did against Ramirez, including their 2nd fight
But how many times do ppl complain about de decision in Qawi vs Holyfield #1?

 

Whitaker did NOT beat DLH. I've watched the fight so many times now just to see peoples logic in scoring it for him, its just not there. It really wasn't even particularly close in my eyes.