Whitaker-Chavez

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  1. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Firstly I would like to say that Ferdie Pacheco is a clueless, biased old *******... he tried his best to give Chavez every rd possible, he even gave him rds that were Whitaker rds... he kinda ruins the fight for me with his nonsense (if anyone knows were I can view this fight with different commentary it would be much appreciated)

    Secondly, I thought Whitaker was masterful in this fight, nothing more to add here.

    Lastly, my score card....
    1. Even
    2. Chavez
    3. Whitaker
    4. Whitaker
    5. Whitaker
    6. Even
    7. Whitaker
    8. Whitaker
    9. Chavez
    10. Whitaker
    11. Whitaker
    12. Chavez

    7-3-2 Whitaker

    (There were no 10-8 rds)

    Even Pacheco eventually had Whitaker winning the fight, Chavez never won any clear rds in the entire fight & Whitaker did a paint job on him in rds 3, 7 & 8 & won a few more rds quite clearly as well (& Im a big JCC fan)

    Anyone have this NOT a Whitaker win ?
     
    Bill Butcher, Jun 9, 2011
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  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought it was closer than that, 7-5 but Whitaker won his rounds much clearer. Chavez bodywork in this fight is sometimes a bit overlooked. It should have been a win for Whitaker no doubt but it was not as bad of a robbery as his first fight with Ramirez.
     
    bodhi, Jun 9, 2011
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  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    8-4 Whitaker.

    Ferdie Pacheco can eat a giant Magic Johnson dick.
     
    Thread Stealer, Jun 9, 2011
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  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Get the ESPN version if you want to hear Al Bernstein dropping an 118-110 (little wide imo).

    I had it 9-3 Whitaker, but I think anything up to 7-5 is justifiable. There's a few close rounds that could have gone Chavez's way here, but he didn't draw this fight, nor win it of course.
     
    sweet_scientist, Jun 9, 2011
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  5. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Imo, if you gave Chavez more than four rounds you are more charitable than Mother Teresa
     
    Surf-Bat, Jun 9, 2011
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  6. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    I had it 117-111 Pea.
     
    Kittikasem, Jun 9, 2011
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  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I agree, the 1st Ramirez fight was worse, no way Whitaker lost that fight... no way he lost or even drew the Chavez fight either but JCC did better than Ramirez for sure, Pea beat both tho.
     
    Bill Butcher, Jun 9, 2011
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  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have always been in the vast majority, and scored the fight a draw! I don't remember my card and have not scored it in over a year, but I know I have posted it in previous threads 2-4 years ago on here...but I am not going to search for it. I like both guys but am not a major phan of either, so don't feel that I am biased one way or the other. Feel free to disagree (I know 90% or more on here will)....I think the commentators were way biased in favor of Whitaker.
     
    PhillyPhan69, Jun 9, 2011
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  9. PopeJackson

    PopeJackson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Most of the people I have met who think Chavez won are just bitter Mexicans. 8-4 or 9-3 Whitaker IMO. Pretty clear win.
     
    PopeJackson, Jun 9, 2011
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  10. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    8-4 Whitaker. And I tried being nice with Julio here. One of the worst robbery ..
     
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  11. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    I thought Chavez was robbed personally.At the end of a long,hot,soggy day,Chavez was the aggressor,and that's all that matters when deciding who won a fight.He came to fight and Sweet Poo didn't.Hard to score a fight to a guy who's running,huh?
     
    Goyourownway, Jun 9, 2011
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  12. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    :lol:

    Ring generalship boils down to who's the bull? I say the matador is the one who deserves the most credit. Whoever controls the pace is the winner, whether it's on the back or front foot is irrelevant...
     
    Swarmer, Jun 9, 2011
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  13. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    8-4 Whitaker, and JCC is my favorite fighter of all time.
     
    Zopilote, Jun 9, 2011
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  14. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    my copy of this fight is with english commentary.

    reg gutteridge and barry mcguigan.

    from memory mcguigan only gave it to whitaker by 1 pt.

    116-115.

    i agree with u that whitaker was a fairly wide winner. :bbb
     
    hitman_hatton1, Jun 9, 2011
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  15. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Chavez was ROBBED!!!!!!!
     
    itrymariti, Jun 9, 2011
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