Whitaker outclassing Chavez

Agreed :good

 

A domination by Whitaker on Chavez is just a myth.

It was very boring fight as well. Myself and many others scored it 6-6.

The draw was very appropriate as Whitaker didn't do enough even though he looked great in a couple of rounds. Heck I do not mind a 7-5 in favor of Whitaker.

This fight pops up in this forum every so often and this is my opinion in every one of those threads.

 

You see what I am saying....

 

It was far from a myth it was clear who was out landing who!!

 

Even the judge who had it for Whitaker had it a close fight.

 

You mean the Don King judges in Chavez's hometown?

 

Oh please man, do you think I can take a self-proclaimed Whitaker nuthugger seriously on a Whitaker thread.

 

Why not, considering everyone else agrees with me? It has less to do with bias and more to do with having the ability to score a boxing match in this case.

 

Their peaks didn't overlap.

 

What's so hilarious is that everytime a Chavez fan says the draw was deserved or that Chavez could have gotten the nod they never say which rounds Chavez won to even get a draw much less the win.

 

I was there live and almost everyone in the crowd, which was mostly mexican and mexican american thought whitaker won and actually booed the decision. I dont think pea was a greater fighter than jc, but he was that night and after 89 fights it's quite possible superman had an off night.

 

In all Honesty this fight should have been made in 1990.
A year after Sweet Pea was named Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year for '89,
and the same year Chavez Ruined Meldrick Taylor.
(Which I bet is a Robbery to the Pea fan's in this thread aswell prob..lol)

The words "Out Classed" & "Domination" do not belong in a Chavez vs. Whitaker thread. maybe "Points, Opinion, Jab, Draw and Judges" but defo not a Dominiation.

 

Thank christ youre not a judge.

 

The fight was'nt feasible to be made and be a big fight at lightweight.

Whitaker-Chavez should have been made at 140 lbs, and right after Whitaker beat Pineda, but instead of Whitaker sticking around the division in which he had just stepped into coming up from lightweight......Whitaker moved up to Welterweight, and eventually made JC Chavez come up to him.
I dont think there's ever been a situation in history where a fighter that caliber of Whitaker bypassed the division which held the consensus P4P best fighter in the world.
Chavez was huge back then, and Whitaker skipped town on 140 lbs, and moved up to Welter.

The record shows that Whitaker's body frame and style was better suited to compete as a Welter than Chavez was.

Having said that, I just dont see the clinic that people talk about that Whitaker propinated at Chavez.
From my point of view, Whitaker had two great rounds in that fight, and the rest of those rounds, Whitaker did his damnest to try and make them uneventful.

I just dont give alot of credence to fighters who stall fights.

You guys want to know what a boxing clinic looks like, try watching Acre-Mijares, JMM-Pac, Calzaghe-Lacy, just to name a few of the more recent clinics......fights in which the non-chaser was looking to counter at every opportunity.
These boxing examples, the boxer Mijares, JMM, and Calzaghe, dont know the meaning of what it is to stall a fight.
These fighters looked to throw shots at every opportunity, and never looked to buy time, yet they were'nt brawling or mixing it up, they were just boxing the pants out of their opposition.
......Whitaker-Chavez was far from a clinic......Chavez chasing, and Whitaker running circles with most of the time not having any intent to do what a boxer should do, and that is to make a fighter miss, while making him pay.
Except for two rounds in that fight, there was'nt a whole lot coming from Whitaker that was even intended to be meaningful, much less meaningful!

I scored it 6-6 on first viewing (which I always stick to) dont have a problem with someone having it close for Whitaker......but a clinic by Whitaker it was not!

Its too bad that boards like these were'nt around back then so that we could have dicsussed the fight right after its showing.....instead, we get alot of people with opinions that are influenced by magazine articles like Sports Illustrated (that knows squat about boxing) titled "Robbed!"

 

We all know your strong opinions on Whitaker/Chavez(and skilled pure boxers in general) and how much I disagree so I won't go there.

As for the above, I agree with most of it. But, let's not act as if the move up to WW greatly affected JCC, who was only 2 pounds heavier for the fight than he was as a JWW, and Whitaker, while holding a 3 pound weight advantage, was not really the bigger fighter at all. But as a WW in general, yes Pea fit the weight better. For that fight, the bout was on even terms.