Whitaker Robberies - What Was The Point?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Whitaker was a Olympic gold medalist pegged for great things from day one.

    What was the point of having him lose a decision against Ramirez?

    Was that anything approaching a smart business move? What was the point of it?
     
  2. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is what I know, may be wrong.

    Ramirez was a Mexican who held the WBC belt. As we all know the WBC is based in Mexico and has a bit of a bias towards Mexicans. Chavez was the WBA lightweight champ at the time.

    The WBC/powers that be wanted a massive Mexican unification fight between Chavez and Ramirez and therefore Sweet Pea got shafted.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Was Ramirez a King fighter?
     
  4. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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  5. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So?
     
  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Used to be, huh.

    Well I'm glad he got better!
     
  7. Sweet Pea

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    The judges were obviously racist.
     
  8. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Ramirez was a Mexican and Whitaker was fighting for the WBC welterweight title. The WBC are based in Mexico and the president, Sulamain, is from the country.
     
  9. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    He was considered boring, and not very marketable.
    (As some of his fellow teammates)

    106: Paul Gonzales, Los Angeles, Calif. (1st)
    112: Steve McCrory, Detroit, Mich. (1st)
    119: Robert Shannon, Edmonds, Wash.
    125: Meldrick Taylor, Philadelphia, Pa. (1st)
    132: Pernell Whitaker, Norfolk, Va. (1st)
    139: Jerry Page, Columbus, Ohio (1st)
    147: Mark Breland, Brooklyn, N.Y. (1st)
    156: Frank Tate, Detroit, Mich. (1st)
    165: Virgil Hill, Williston, N.D. (2nd)
    178: Evander Holyfield, Atlanta, Ga. (3rd)
    201: Henry Tillman, Los Angeles, Calif. (1st)
    +201: Tyrell Biggs, Philadelphia, Pa. (1st)
     
  10. sp6r=underrated

    sp6r=underrated Member Full Member

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    I'm just curious, was their reports about this. I haven't heard this before.
     
  11. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Depends where the judges were from. Many French people are afro Americans and they don't have a problem with racism. However, Russia, Coatia, and even Spain all have bad reputations for it within football.
     
  12. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Racist is an over used term. Biased maybe, but not racist.
     
  13. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Whitaker was robbed against Ramirez but in watching it years later it was not as terrible as I thought at the time ... still, he should have gotten the decision.

    He was robbed again against Chavez in a terrible draw but Chavez was protected by DK for a long time ...
     
  14. sp6r=underrated

    sp6r=underrated Member Full Member

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    Thanks for the heads up
     
  15. Loewe

    Loewe internet hero Full Member

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    Yeah, sure just blame everything on race instead of looking for the real reason.