Whitaker vs Ramirez I

I stick with what I said.

Ladies and Gentlemen....I give you someone who has never seen the fight!!!

 

Chavez was the number 1 p4p fighter in the world when they fought you twit. Past his prime? Like you said he fought 54 more fights? What are you talking about?

Notice everyone who dislikes Sweet Pea is a Chavez fan? Coincidence???

 

Don't you have the fight in your garage? I seem to recall you do. Pull it out, score it, and then I'll youtube it for all others to verify. :good

 

You talk great hype. You'd kill it as a promoter :good

 

all i will say is i had Whitaker by 2 points over Chavez. 116-114

in the Rivera fight i had Rivera winning by 3 points 117-114

and the Dela Hoya fight i scored it ODH 116 Whitaker 115

i believe he did enough against Chavez but lost to Rivera and also the ODH fight i believe it could have been a draw or a win to ODN it was a close fight.

also i think alot of judges didnt know how to score a fighter like Sweet Pea and im not affraid to say that. why becuase he was in an era with 90% offensive based type fighters.
like most guys that were around were the Tyson's,Chavez's,Hearns etc. it was an era of those type of guys and i feel there are more defensive based guys now.

i feel Sweet Pea in this era would have been a great champ.
why because there are how many defensive type guys out there that have belts.
like PBF,Jermain Taylor, Cpry Spinks,Chad Dawson,B-Hop,Winky back then there was just Sweet Pea pretty much.

anyway thats why i feel those decisions went Chavez's way a bit.

 

Whitaker-Ramirez was one of the worst robberies of all time, Whitaker 10-2

 

You had DLH-Whitaker 116-115 despite Whitaker getting deducted a point and DLH being knocked down? How many even rounds did you score?

And Rivera only lost 3 points against Pea? I would LOVE to see your round by round for that fight.

 

It makes things so much more exciting doesn't it!

 

Your a moron guerrero. Your one of maybe 5 people that still believe Chavez won/drawed in that fight.

Again, as I said, notice all of the people that dont like Pea are Chavez fans??? Coincidence???

 

So would I.

For all three of them actually.

 

.............Oh, don't start with that "over the hill" crap. Chavez was on a serious roll going into that fight (well, obviously, as he was 80-something and 0, but beyond the mere ring record he was very very sharp in his pre-Whitaker fights). There was not one ounce of a hint that he had slipped a bit. This doesn't wash at all.

 

Chavez was more accomplished and had been through wars, but if you are outboxed and outclassed, you deserve to lose the fight. Whitaker outboxed Chavez and outfought him at many moments in the fight and deserved to become the 1st man to give JCC a loss. I don't care if Chavez had been champion for 11 years and had 88 pro fights. If you go by your criteria, had Meldrick Taylor lasted the distance, he should have lost the fight.

Whitaker was a great fighter - a very good fighter is somebody like Buddy McGirt. He was possibly the best defensive fighter of all time who won titles in 4 different weight classes. You don't accomplish as much as he did without being a great fighter. If anything, you are blind because you are the only person I have ever come across who says Pernell was just "Very Good."

 

No there are a few more Chavez fans on here that think Whitaker sucked.

But honestly, its ONLY Chavez fans. There are no others that do not give Whitaker his due.

Plain and simple, he beat their man. They know it. They will NEVER admit it. But it kills them inside. Its so obvious.

 

:yep
How did you score the fight?

 

............I think you're right, but deep down they know Whitaker kicked his ass. They just see it as a machismo pride thing that they aren't allowed to admit.