Whitaker vs Ramirez I

Here I will make it easy for you guys!!!

Here is the fight (ignore the Japanese announcers) in its entirety. Watch and tell me your scorecards, PLEASE....round by round.

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There ya go. I will follow with my round by round.

(oh and let me post the other feed of the fight, which has the 6th round in it....its more of a highlight video tho...sorry all I could find.)

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Again, watch and score!!!

 

Round1

10-9 Chavez applies good pressure, keeping Pea for the most part hesitant to throw any type of combos. Both fighters feel each other out for the most part.

Round2

9-10 ( 19-19 ) Pea hit Chavez with a few clean power shots, keeps the jab in his face for the most part...Chavez content to come forward and swing sparingly, but for the most part missing.

Round3

9-10 ( 28-29 ) Whitaker lands at will, continuously beating Julio to the punch. Keeps the jab in Chavez's face, working exclusively off that. Sneaks in a few good body shots and power shots as well. Chavez fails to land anything clean all round.

Round4

9-10 ( 37-39 ) Again Whitaker beats Chavez to the punch, even switches to the aggessor for the first half of the round, before going back to backing up and boxing off his jab. Chavez lands one nice jab and one nice bodyshot. Sweet Pea even gets the better of him on the inside.

Round5

10-9 ( 47-48 )Very good round for Chavez. Landed a couple good body shots and one great right hook on the inside. Pea came back in the last minute to make the round close.

Round6

9-10 ( 56-58 ) Missing from the video (sorry..posted another one that has it after the rest...). But Sweet Pea beating Chavez to the punch, Chavez coming forward, getting caught. Unintetional low blow by Pea...

Round7

9-10 ( 65-68 ) BIG ROUND FOR WHITAKER. Sweet Pea looks confident, snapping the jab, landing combination after combination. Again switches to the aggressor for the second half of the round....continuously beating Chavez to the punch. Chavez looks VERY confused and frustrated.

Round8

9-10 ( 74-78 ) Another great round for Whitaker. The fight toe to toe for the whole round and Whitaker STILL beats Chavez to the punch. Chavez looks tired. Whitaker lands in flurries throughout. Even backs Chavez up on more than a few occasions.

Round9

9-10 ( 83-88 ) Chavez starts the round off well coming forward and landing a couple of good shots. Whitaker switches back to working off the jab and lands some great combinations as well as some great counter left hooks. Chavez sneaks in a good right toward the end, but is immediately countered with an even better one. They go toe to toe toward the very end of the round with Whitaker landing cleaner and more.

Round10

9-10 ( 92-98 ) Chavez rushes Whitaker right at the bell and lands, but again is countered with a flurry by Sweet Pea. More of the same. Whitaker beating Chavez to the punch. Even starting SNAP Chavez's head back with each jab landed.

Round11

9-10 ( 101-108 ) More of the same. Whitaker landing more, cleaner and harder. Chavez unable to find Whitaker...again Chavez looks VERY frustrated.

Round12

10-9 ( 111-117 ) Chavez lands a few good shots and stalks Whitaker, obviously knowing he needed a KO. Whitaker content to do just enough to keep Chavez off of him.

So there you have it...111-117.

You guys gonna man the **** up and post yours? :happy

 

atsch No need to score...Whitaker was running all night, Chavez was the one actually coming forward. And most importantly, Chavez had more wars coming in to the fight and had also been champion for a longer period of time. The judges knew JCC deserved respect.

Chavez: 7 Rounds
Whitaker: 5 Rounds

Chavez was ROBBED!

 

Well you heard what divac said...I have no idea how to score a fight....:nut

Be careful bro...they might think your serious...:rofl :rofl :rofl

 

I got the fight posted. Cmon where is the round by round scorecard? This way everyone can compare the rounds you had for Chavez to what happened in real life...

We are waiting.

 

He was moving backwards, but landing clean punches. Chavez was coming forward, but not being very effective.

 

Wow the grammer.....atsch

Anyway...you ever gonna post your round by round or you just gonna keep talking **** out of you ass.

I told all of you that none of these Chavez maniacs were gonna post one...because they cant without being exposed!!!

 

Whitaker also mixed things up well. Not just being effective while backing up, but also standing in a stationery position and being effective with power punches at distancen, beating Chavez and inside.

 

If I remember correctly, didn't he have Chavez backing up somewhere in the 7th to 9th rounds?

 

:hi: :smooch

 

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I love Chavez and alot about what you said about him was dead on. There is only one problem, when he fought Sweet Pea, he was unable to "close the show" and he was not the "sweeter scientist". All the while Sweet Pea was doing his crazy "hit and not be hit" thing (who knows why anyone would want to do that????).

And the point of boxing is, if you cannot "close the show", you had better "hit and not be hit" so you can win a "12 round point decision".

Seriously, I liked your post alot (I really did, dont mind my sarcasm...Im a dick sometimes :hey ), but just because a person doesnt knock everyone out, it doesnt take away ANYTHING from their overall greatness. I mean, some of the greatest fights in history went to the cards...should we ignore them because there was no knockout?

 

Well mate. From reading all of that, it looks like fighters should only fight one way in your opinion. Come forward and break opponents wills. "The ultimate aim is to "beat" your opponent and not win a 12 round points decision". Sorry, but it does not state in the rules while contesting a match over 12 rounds you need to "beat" your opponent. Im guessing with the word "beat" you mean throw power punches and be aggressive?.

I think many professional fighters would strongly disgree with your view on the following. "this is, the goal is to break your opponents will - truly defeat him - either by knockout or making him quit". The goal is about winning. Well, I'll go one better, winning in style. And in my opinion Chavez and Whitaker were totally different in terms of style, but both won impressively. Yes some fighters with a style of pressuring with power might agree with your view to a certain extent, but the name of the game is "winning".

Some fighters in history simply never had enough power to stand and trade punches. Willie Pep, Whitaker, and a prime Muhammad Ali, are probably the best examples. They had everything else in their arsenal to do things differently. If you have the boxing ability from long range, the speed and reflexes, foot movement, combined with stamina to hit your opponent and not get hit back, then why would you want to come forward like a bull during every round?. Your simply not playing to your strengths in that regard.

In my opinion. It impresses me more when a fighter hits his opponent, yet does not take many back in return. Its an art form, especially doing it while backing up. Its more difficult than taking one to give one. No question.

 

So Pep isn't truly great, and Chavez and Holyfield are greater because they "owned their opponents in mind, body, and soul?

 

Yes, slick boxers who are evasive, speedy, and crafty can take the heart out of guys too. Just not as devestating as the punchers can.