Whitaker vs Tszyu @ 140

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  1. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was on youtube. No idea if it still is.Masterfull stuff.
     
  2. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just watched it. Great stuff.

    Amazing how a shorter guy can keep his opponent out of range just by taking a few steps in and then a few steps back out.

    I will say the pro version of Forrest seemed to become a bit more patient and less wild for the most part.

    Whitaker is still in another league than anything Tsyzu has ever seen.
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People seem to be acting as though Whitaker never lost a round his entire career.

    Is Nelson could takes rounds, why cannot Tszyu?

    Tszyu posses scary accuracy, scaring timing and at his best excellent punch selection.
     
  4. Thread Stealer

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    Whitaker would probably spend more time moving laterally and on the backfoot then in the more aggressive manner in the pocket in which he fought the likes of McGirt, Paez, and Mayweather. Tszyu was very good at getting his right hand in against lefties, but obviously the likes of Mitchell, Rodriguez, and Judah were levels below Sweet Pea. He'd land some shots, but not enough. Whitaker had a pretty good chin, I was impressed with his toughness in taking that beating from Trinidad at the end of his career.

    Whitaker would probably mix in some mauling tactics, as he was effective at coming in with that right shoulder and driving his opponents back, then hitting them with his left. Tszyu liked to control the pace and distance of fights and tactics like this would be good for Whitaker to use to mess up Tszyu's rhythm when he'd start having succcess.

    All in all I think Whitaker wins a clear decision.
     
  5. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    This of course. He would turn and turn until Tsyzu got dizzy. Tsyzu was a pressure fighter but he also lost rounds against good movers and Whitaker could make himself invisible in close.
    Tszyu is an underated technician, but he didnt have as diverse of a punch arsenal needed to beat Whitaker. Id say Whitaker wins a pretty onesided UD.
     
  6. Sayers

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    I cant decide if Tsyzu is underrated or overrated at times, he is certainly a talented fighter, good power and sharp, accurate punching but he is a level below sweet pea. It is unfortunate that Tsyzu's strengths are mostly negated by Whitakers style. The precision of Kostyas punches are probably his most threatening attribute but he is still not landing many shots if Pernell decides to get on his bike and, although Tsyzu is a fine boxer this will be negated as Whitaker has the better jab. I can even see Whitaker giving him trouble on the inside, even if only for short bursts.

    Advantage in movement and jab means that only one fighter can control this fight and would win a clear points victory, his only real chance of losing being if he doesnt keep busy and coasts and it costs him with the judges as it has before.
     
  7. Gesta

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    This looks to be the most likely.
     
  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember seeing Hector Lopez outbox Kostya Tszyu and getting the wrong end of the decision.
     
  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It perhaps isn't best to make these claims with Youtube about...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0VQi61JG4Y[/ame]

    A ten fight novice against a world class campaigner, with the novice doing enough to take the fight.
     
  10. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: Come on guy i saw the damn fight and clearly remember Lopez taking most of the early rounds and Tszyu coming on the end, why dont you show the whole fight? I thought Tszyu made it close in the end but Still thought Lopez won by 1 point. You have to show kostyas best moments so you can sound right:patsch:-( Im not the only one who thinks Lopez won ive heard a couple posters here who agree with me.
    Tszyu was already world class by this time and Lopez would have even gave an experienced Tszyu problems.

    You can also hear the crowd booing the decision and the announcers saying it was controversial in the last seconds before it went off.
     
  11. Gesta

    Gesta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Close fight, then Kostya won the last two rounds.

    Kostya did win no dispute. Hector did spit the dummy tho', claiming that he was robbed.
     
  12. Boxed Ears

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    I don't really see what would give Tszyu any edge anywhere on this. Not that I think it'd be impossible for prime Tszyu to beat 140-lb Pea but if they fought 100 times, I'd say Pea wins 85 or 95 of them. And yes, if Trinidad's performance didn't take Whitaker out at 147, Tszyu has very little shot at it at 140.
     
  13. China_hand_Joe

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    Well that is the difference between Joe Calzaghe and the rest of the all time P4P top 10.When Calzaghe had an off day, he won a clear decision.

    When Whitaker, Mayweather, Tszyu, Duran or whoever had an off day or injury they struggled and were capable of losing or a genuine close fight.

    It is like you are critising Tszyu for not been as consistant as Joe Calzaghe, which is unfair. You might as well critise him for not being as handsome too.
     
  14. WhataRock

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    This fight was on Aussie T.V just a few weeks ago and Ive seen it a couple of times.

    Kostya had a lot of trouble no doubt...Hec was a tough hombre and had plenty of tricks.

    The crowd booing is a little relevance though...They seemed to be pro-Hector all night.
    I had Kostya the clear winner by 2 points because of his cleaner punching but he was certainly troubled all through out.
    Kostya I think won the first two (maybe even 3) rounds from memory...He started fast and landed some wicked leather on Lopez but will little effect. I dont think Lopez really cleaned up early..it took a few rounds for him to come on and I feel he got the better of the midrounds.
     
  15. lefthook31

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    That was one of those welcome to the pros gut check fights. Part of the process of making a young kid into a great fighter if he has the guts for it. Perhaps it was a little too soon or not expected but I dont think it tarnishes what his ability was. Tszyu seemed to step up rather quickly as a pro. Wonder who promoted and managed him?