White collar to amateur boxing possible?

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  1. Here's Johnny

    Here's Johnny Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've read and been told conflicting things on this subject. If you box on a white collar event can you then compete as an amateur?
    Never boxed before but a few years ago as a teenager I was training a lot and due to get medical so I could compete. This never materialised but I have wanted to get back into it. When I saw the white collar event advertised I signed up because i'm guaranteed a bout on the date. However, I don't want to jeopardize any chance of boxing properly in the future. I'm in the UK.
    Thanks for any help. :thumbsup
     
  2. Journey Man

    Journey Man Journeyman always. Full Member

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    Yeah you can, but you must declare it to the aba
     
  3. RichCarne

    RichCarne New Member Full Member

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    As far as I know:

    You should still be able to boxer as an amateur (ABAE) after a white collar bout, however, your club will have to apply to the "eligibility committee" for a decision.

    We have had so many rule changes recently, I'm beginning to lose track. Ask this question at the warrior boxing forum for a definitive answer.
     
  4. RichCarne

    RichCarne New Member Full Member

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    Come to think of it I seem to remember a rule being brought in recently stating anyone who had previously competed professionally in any combat sport not being allowed to box amateur.

    I'm not sure whether white collar could be classed as professional?
     
  5. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't think so you don't get paid for it!
     
  6. Here's Johnny

    Here's Johnny Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks for all the help. I will get in touch with the aba to try and get a definitive answer.
     
  7. RichCarne

    RichCarne New Member Full Member

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    I'm no expert regarding white collar, but I know for a fact some boxers do actually get paid.

    Depends on the promoter and type of show. The boxers don't usually get paid for Charity events. On other shows, they get a few hundred quid per fight.
     
  8. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah ok, yeah I was just thinking about them being charity events.
     
  9. Here's Johnny

    Here's Johnny Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This one is for charity like.
     
  10. LeeJonesJnr

    LeeJonesJnr Active Member Full Member

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    I can't imagine you would have a problem but ask the ABA.
    A pro with less than 4 fights can return to amateur so a charity event shouldn't be a problem.
    The unlicensed scene that a poster above was referring to may be different but unlicensed boxers turn pro without issue these days.
     
  11. RichCarne

    RichCarne New Member Full Member

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    I think the rule regarding pro's returning to amateur may have been changed in the last couple of month mate (AIBA rule change).

    OP ... Post your question on the warrior boxing forum. There are several England Boxing board members who post there (including AIBA representatives). They will be able to give you a definitive answer.
     
  12. freddieMaize

    freddieMaize Active Member Full Member

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    I'm a software engineer for 8 years and an amateur boxer for 4 years.

    Wait a minute. You are asking what I think you are aksing right?
     
  13. oiky

    oiky Gypsy Boy Full Member

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    I have seen it done before, theres obviously a few rules and regs but I've seen a few of my pals do it
     
  14. LeeJonesJnr

    LeeJonesJnr Active Member Full Member

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    Oh really? I hadn't heard that - perfect example of why it is always best to check things out wth the right people!
     
  15. Here's Johnny

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    Home » Rules and Medical » Previous combat experience
    Requesting clearance to register an athlete with previous combat experience

    (updated February 2015)

    Since implementation of AIBA rules on 01.01.14, any person with previous individual combat sport experience wishing to join England Boxing (as a boxer), was required to seek clearance, via the National Federation, from AIBA.

    To date there has been no formal, laid down procedure from AIBA to enable this clearance to be sought and we have submitted several email cases over the last few months, which are currently still pending a response from Lausanne.

    Since submission of our cases AIBA have amended the rules, now enabling a national federation to grant clearance for membership in certain circumstances and under additional conditions (see AIBA Technical Rule 1.9, as stated on the request form). They have also now provided a formal process for federations to adopt and follow in order to process those requests. Any granted requests must then be registered with AIBA.

    We attach a copy of the process to follow and the relevant form for your association to use in order to request clearance for membership. The process takes effect immediately.

    The basic process, which is attached in flowchart format for ease of understanding, requires that;-

    The proposed boxing member:

    Must demonstrate acceptance of the additional membership conditions in writing, by receiving, signing and returning the provided form to their association
    Must formally declare their previous combat experience on the provided form, before clearance for membership can be sought

    The association:

    Declares, at the outset, the intended weight category and classification of the proposed boxing member
    Signs and sends the original of the completed form to the NGB office, by recorded delivery or tracked postal service.
    Will not grant boxer membership or register the proposed member until approval has been received from the national federation

    The national federation:

    Will review the request for membership clearance and either approve or reject it
    Will notify the association of the result of the request
    Will send any approved requests to AIBA for recording on their database records
    The process for requesting clearance (flowchart)

    Request to register an athlete form (to be completed by the athlete and his or her association)


    Previously submitted requests

    Unfortunately, those associations who have previously sent in written requests for clearance will need to resubmit all requests using this method, completed and signed forms.

    Turnaround at the NGB office is expected to take up to 21 days.

    Unlicensed/White Collar Boxing


    Please note that, we are now able to receive requests for membership from boxers with unlicensed/white collar boxing experience, which has been classified as “Other Combat Sport”.