who a better ATG mayweather / james toney???

Mayweather, it isnt really close. Mayweather's 39-0 resume is simply better then Toney's 71-6-3. Toney lost alot of his high profile fights (Jones, Griffin x2, Peter x2). He did have some good wins (Nunn, Johnson, McCallum, Holyfield, Jirov). However he also had some gift victories, mainly a MD 12 over a slightly better then average journeyman named Terry McGroom. I had McGroom winning that fight 7-4-1 and the guy worked full time at night at a hospital. Toney has had some great wins, but also some terrible defeats, and because of this Floyds record is more impressive even though he has less fights under his belt. Testing positive for steroids after beating Ruiz doesnt help his cause either. I think most of the people who vote for Toney are haters of Mayweather. I dont really like Floyd personally but I dont see how anyone can argue that Floyd has the better resume.

 

60 places apart

 

James Toney. That is an easy choice too.

The fact Toney is willing to fight at the Hw level, and willing to get hit by hard punchers like Peter, and Rahman, and he Ko'd Evander. Toney doesn't care about the Loss column in his resume. But, Pbf tries his best to keep that record so prestine, that he doesn't take any historical or classic risks at all.

Name me one accomplishment of PBf that even comes close to Koing Evander Holyfield?? A pbf fan will never be able to give me one, no matter how big their pom poms are, they will never be able to name me one thing.

 

James Toney

 

Well holyfield was what 41 years old?

And because Toney doesn't care about losing, he's better?

 

Mayweather, quite easily.

 

Your insane. I'm not a Floyd fan, but his wins over Corrales, Castillo x2, Judah, Hatton, Hernandez, Chavez, Baldomire, and Oscar are a hell of a lot more impressive then Toney KO'ing an UNDERTRAINED and UN-MOTIVATED 41 year old Evander Holyfield. I love Evander but he was not prepared for that fight, and I garuntee you the Holyfield who went on theat 4 fight win streak before losing to Ibrigamov would have beat the HW versian of James Toney UD 12 (8-3-1).

 

Dont get me wrong, Toney was a great fighter, and he has some great accomplishments. But at the same time his losses, and his should have been losses against less then stellar opponents, plus his steroids controversy (who knows how many fights he was juicing and wasnt tested) take away form his ATG status. I still consider Toney one of the great boxers of the last 20 years, but he is not on Floyds level in terms of resume and legacy.

 

He doesn't care about people on forums saying he sucks after losing. He also doesn't need their praises either. He would fight the Klitschkos or Haye if he ever had the chance. But, Pbf wouldn't have the guts to step in the ring with someone like Bhop. You know, to face the big guy at high noon. Its known as having balls and huevos. Pbf is like those college teams in those divisions, that end the season with a perfect record, but they didn't play anyone devastatingly tough. But, James Toney is like Notre dame, every week is a tough team. And still they can win the Championships still. If you don't understand what I am saying, its because your heart is too much into having heroes, someone to look up to. That's fine to have heroes, but it often gets in the way when your trying to discuss true boxing.

 

First time I see someone vote for a fighter because he didn't care about losing.

Eric Crumble didn't give a damn about losing either and rates above Mayweather and Toney in your glorified list. :good

 

Nice, so he's not only voted for not caring about losing but also because he doesn't care what people on forums say. Amazing.

 

KO Evander isn't a big thing, even at his age? Evander has the heart of lion, and at any age that doesn't go away. Pbf couldn't even come close to koing an old washed up DLH. And Pac disposed of him easily.

 

Floyd didnt face anyone tough!? What the f*ck are you trying to do here? I will admit he didnt take the toughest fights out there the last few years, he had a few good ones but also had too many "stay busy" fights against decent opposition rather then the best at 147 pounds, but to say he never faced anyone devastatingly tough is obsurd. You should look up Floyds record before talking about him.

 

He's KO of Evander was a good win, but like I said a prime Holyfield would have out boxed Toney in my opinion. About DLH - He was weight drained and damn near shot when Manny took him out, also Pacman and Floyd are two totally different kinds of fighters. Manny is more aggressive, Floyd is more of a strategest. This isnt about Manny and his greatness, DLH - Mayweather should have never happened because 1. Floyd has no buisiness at 150 - 154 pounds, and 2. DLH is much bigger naturally then both Floyd and Pacman and since Floyd isnt the aggressive beast that Pacman is his win over Oscar is far less impressive. Floyds resume is still better then Toneys regardless of the Holyfield and Oscar fights.