Who actually wants to see Pac-Mayweather now with drug-testing up to the fight?

:rofl:rofl:good

 

I honestly don't think the came/comes from Manny. Manny is making a lot of money, admired by an insane amount of people and doing what he loves. If Big Bob is behind the scenes making **** happen to keep it that way, why would Manny override him? It's honestly no real reason for him to tell Bob to **** off like some other fighters have.. He's not boxing for that much longer I'm sure so pursuing a career without Arum wouldn't be ideal. He always says his job is to fight and please the fans, and (most) his fans don't have a problem without him taking the tests.

I've been saying this will be the last fight for one of these two. I believe it will be Manny's last fight and he will finally agree.

 

I hadn't watched that before.



Roach: "it is what it is.....We live in that World today...":!:

 

A good point a fellow poster pointed out before (**** I wish I remember who it was!) was that he thought Manny would agree on his last fight... Manny is a politician and feeds on the support of his fans and fellow countrymen. If/when he finally agrees to take the tests without cutoff it will be seen as a HUGE concession on his part JUST to get the fight everyone wants to see made. Even if Manny is to take a loss in the fight, his fans/countrymen will still be very happy with him and appreciate (maybe even blame the loss on) him agreeing to have his blood taken although it mentally hurt him. He could then fully transition into politics with more support than he already had!! Completely guessing but it made me say hmm...

 

If he were CLEARLY affected mentally by the blood tests too close to the fight he SHOULD have accepted the 14 day cutoff. I don't buy the blood testing too close to the fight excuse since that whole ordeal.

 

People hate Bob all the time and he is definitely some ****.. but the guy has made some ****ing superstars and worked with superstars since Ali, so he knows the game inside and out.. It's kinda don't bite the hand that feeds you, and made you a global icon kinda thing, I can see it.. Especially after that whole GBP briefcase fiasco, he probably stays away from that side even more..

If Manny loses bad I think it would be his last, If he wins really big he may retire.. But in a somewhat competitive fight I don't know if he'll want to leave it at that.. He always says its for legacy and fans, so he'll probably want a definitive winner if they do meet..

 

Yeah I hadn't stepped back and taken a look at the big picture for Manny. I just don't see him overriding Arum, and I think Arum is a big part of the tests without cutoff not being agreed on. He's had his own fighters to line Manny up with and damn sure doesn't want Floyd to make big money off ANY of his fighters. A fight with Floyd IMO will definitely be Manny's last.

I think if it's not a clear cut winner there will be a rematch giving all parties involved another huge payday. **** even if it's a clear winner but only by a few rounds I think it'll be a rematch.. But I think Manny's last opponent will be Floyd Mayweather.

 

I'm so sick of people believing Team Pac's bull****. I'm just going to ask a question. You just lost to Erik Morales. Larry Merchant asks you what happened . Keep in mind youre supposedly afraid of needles and youre superstitious and all that bull**** . Your moment to speak is now. Youre thinking time for an excuse. Here's option A: Blame the loss on gloves. Option B: Tell Larry about the 2 blood tests that weakened you. Which option do you tell Larry Merchant ? Me personally I would go with the drugtest excuse . But guess who didn't . Manny Pacquiao . He didn't come up with the blood phobia bull**** till after he was back in the Phillipines. Watch the post fight interview . Manny mentions jack **** about being weakened to Larry but to this day they ride with that bull**** excuse . Tell Manny that GOD looks down on liars that commit adultery and create false images. Stop sticking up for this media hype job. Time to take some tests without a cut-off. Its that simple. You pinoy posters tell Manny I personally will pray to GOD to give him the strength to overcome his fear of needles even though his tattoos and 24/7 video footage of him giving blood and training the next day prove otherwise .

 

Manny should do the same testing regimen Ortiz and Mosley did, and just make the fight, if he really wants it. It is clear, it won't happen any other way. There is no guarantee he will be blood tested on the day of the fight (pre fight). Shane was not and Ortiz may not be either. Neither was Floyd, for the Mosley fight.

Although, they could agree on no blood testing the day of the fight (pre fight), and, perhaps, they can both be shadowed by USADA agents up until the point they enter the ring or something.

 

I remember the post you're talkin' about.

Dude made it sound believable that the Pac Masses would view it as Pac showing pitty to Floyd.

 

Yeah, it is funny how he didn't mention being affected by the testing, until he got back home. It kind of reminds me of Clottey's interview once he back to Ghana after his one sided loss to Pac. Pac was weakened by blood tests and Clottey was weakened by banku stew. WTF? In both situations, it seemed that both were making excuses for their losses, and discrediting their opponents by doing so. That's on some Haye, "look at my broken toe after the fact", type ****, IMO.

 

It hadn't been thought of yet.

 

No doubt. I'm sure the long flights overseas gave each man time to reach into the deepest recesses of his mind, for an excuse, which would stand the test of time.

 

Same in all business. :yep