Who amongst these star boxers benefited the most from steroid use?

Already well mentioned but Evan Fields is the man here .

 

Pacquiao never becomes a welterweight without them and maxes out at 135lbs.

 

Pacquiao, and is not even close.

 

I think they are all on roids but what is the proof Pac did outside of Ariza's special shakes claim?

I would argue Pac was at a disadventage due to same day weigh ins being gone. He was always 147 on fightnight fighting middleweights.
In the past he could have fought vs junior middleweights and actual middleweights.
I mean guys like Hagler would murder him but beating a beltholder there isnt impossible given how margarito was basically a super middleweight when they fought.

 

My boy wasn't caught hooked up to a drip feed with illegal IV fluids, but your boy was. And your boy did so much more on top of that.

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• Illegal IV fluids in his home
• Ultra low T/E ratios consistent with steroid use in multiple fights
• Announced fights at the last issue possible (controlled cycling and when drug testing began)
• Privately contracted his own drug testing
• Ducked VADA and positive drug test penalties

This woman-beating scumbag might be the worst in sports history.

 

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10 minutes of Floyd being trolled by life, grossing both men and women out, and forcing himself into the picture.

TBE = The Biggest Embarrassment

 

A sensible post.

 

How about Mayweather's illegal WADA banned IV use?

Floyd's abhorrent testosterone to epitestosterone levels, Xylocaine injections numbing agent,

While having personal contracts with USADA while avoiding VADA stringent Carbon Isotope testing among others?

 

Mayweather never struggled to make weight making it even more comical,

It's funny I remember Pacquiao issuing Floyd a 5 million fee for a failed test yet Floyd was the one who turned it down mind you,

The reason their fight was further delayed was because Floyd presented the clause that allowed the testing agency a retroactive TUE exemption to either fighter in the event that the fighter tested Positive for any prohibited drug, that retroactive exemption could be granted without notifying NSAC or the opposing fighters Camp wow!!

 

Yes, because Mayweather's best attribute was his ring IQ, and everybody knows that PEDs help to improve the ring IQ.

On the other hand Pacquiao going up in weight while increasing power, speed and workrate is perfectly normal. And his "1300 punches a fight" performances until he was accused of using PEDS is nothing weird. Firing Ariza after the PEDS acusation and droping to 500-600 punches (the normal values) every fight.... no.... not suspicuous at all.

Ridiculous.

Anyway. A stupid conversation again. I'm so tired of the same freaking conversations in this forum. Once and again and again and again..... I'm not going to repeat it anymore.

 

Evan fields
Roid Jones Jnr
Clenolo

All great fighters but the juice helped them move up and be successful at higher weights

 

Where was the proof that Lance Armstrong doped?

Manny Pacquiao was getting KO'd as a strawweight. Some people say he was malnourished. Fine. He moves up and struggles with larger fighters like JMM and EM at 126. Fastforward a couple of years later and he's gained an additional 20lbs of pure muscle and is walking through welterweights, without sacrifing speed or stamina, and without changing his style... while having almost as much punching power. In what realisitc world is any of this legit?

I haven't even brought up his attempt to negotiate a drug testing cutoff with Floyd, back acne, his comically enlarged head, etc.

Manny Pac was already a HOF level fighter up to 135. No question. But dude is naturally slightly bigger than Naoyua Inoue. What he accomplished beyond lightweight was highly suspect, starting with Hatton.

 

Steroids aren't miracle drugs. Usually they increase power and size. What steroid kelps you maintain punch output and hand speed? That's complete nonsense.

Sprinters take steroids to increase leg power, but it's not sustained.

 

Manny Pacroid, and it's not even close LMFAO

 

Well the OP appears to referr to all kinds of PEDs since several on the list failed for non-steroid PEDs.

EPO and PPAR-agonists(i believe theyre called?) Do maintain and increase output and endurance