Who are Britains Most Underachieving Boxers Currently?

Bellew would have done him probably in their first fight if he hadn't abandoned the double jab and could have kept pace , a second fight here in Cardiff would be an absolute ****ing belter of a fight to watch . BTW Beez i gotta agree regarding your trainer comment , i realise he is trying to do a Joe & Enzo but the difference is Joe would have been what he was had his school music lecturer decided on a career change and trained him but Nath could work his way to proper world class in a few years time if he brought in a different trainer and promoter .

 

Well Suarez defo not underachieving right now..

 

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the thing with gavin is he was in with the wrong crowd, and it got to him, believed he could just turn up places and win without the effort

i think he can push on now and live to some of that obvious potential

 

:good When you put it that way I see your point!

I guess what I mean is that I feel that considering he has a World title and that he is young, talented an goodlooking (no homo), and top that with the fact that he has had some pretty good exposure, I just feel that his career is going nowhere at the moment and that he is 'underachieving' given the position he is in.

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To be an under achiever first of all you need to show some quality, " in the pro game ", the name of Gavin cannot keep cropping up on threads like this, ama boxing is 3 rounds with head guards, yes the schooling is necessary for a fighters development, but 3 rounds with head guards is not 6-8-10 or 12 round fights with 8oz gloves

I honestly expected Kevin Mitchell to go on to really big things, in summary ive been somewhat dissapointed with his development

Others - Cleverly, after Murat it looked nailed on he would make some noise in that **** division, Rendall Munroe, he's somewhat of a mystery, has all the tools but frozen on the big stage.

 

Yes he has, he's moving backwards slowly, his career best show was Murat, for a guy who can overwhelm B & C level opponents with relative ease, i for one expect more

He's not a real world champion he was handed his belt, not his fault granted but thats the cold hard truth, Cleverly is in danger of becoming Britains LHW nearly man at the rate he's moving backwards

His team and coach needs revamping !!

 

"Yes he has" what? Underachieved? No he hasn't and TBH its not really up for debate. People can whinge all they like about his progress since Kuziemski but no way on Earth has he 'underachieved'.

As for the 'handed the belt' comment do I really need to list all of the brilliant fighters who were handed a belt? He hunted Braehmer, Braehmer pulled out. Simple as.

People need a bit of perspective with NC (this is not aimed at you but in general). Just because it is the current trend to slate NC doesn't mean he hasn't already achieved high standards or that he won't in the future.

 

Agree with this too. A Braehmer fight would appease the 1,000 or so ESB hardcores and its a fight I'm sure he'd be well up for. I think 'frustrating' is the perfect word for how the last year has gone for him too.

 

Bang on. He has overachieved if anything.

Poor matchmaking, wrong trainer - I agree.

"Waste him" ? You think Bellew would KO him in rematch? Why do you think that? A below-par, under prepared and apparently 'injured' NC beat him in his own back yard. Does a win over a past-it, blown up MW change things?

 

Michael Maguire, Rhys Roberts, Craig Watson, Craig Lyon, John Watson.

Some of the guys that haven't done as well as I thought they would.

 

I just think that Bellew is better than him, personally.

I had him winning anyway, but I can see the argument for Clev.... but considering their paths since then - Bellew has a couple of good KO wins, and Clev was extended 12 by an area level fighter....

Clev isn't a lost cause, he's ''champion'' and he's still unbeaten, but some important changes need to be made.

 

Ryan Rodes.

 

I agree, even though I scored the fight a draw. In a rematch I think Bellew would school him. He was schooling him for the first 5/6 rounds until he seemed to run out of gas. I don't think it was Cleverly's adjustments that let him back into the fight, but Bellew getting tired. Bellew is better, no doubt. Better fighter, as well as a better boxer. Cleverly against Karpency? Less said about that performance the better.


Frankie Gavin is the obvious name in answer to the OP's question. Looks quality every time I watch him, and his style looks suited to the pro game. I can't see his talent being fulfilled though. Guy is not exactly young anymore.

 

Whats not up for debate ??, what in God's name are you waffling on about ??

For a guy with Cleverly's ability, or potential ability IMHO he's currently under achieving, Cleverly is a cut above British and Euro level but has struggled with guys ranked not much more above that, he's going backwards, its not an alarming decline but its a decline all the same

If he doesnt fight the level of opposition he "should be", how can he be ranked, you quoted title's, and that quote you quoted "world champion", Cleverly is an alphabet champion, if he goes on to prove his worth as a worthy holder of that belt then great, but right now he isnt, he should be stripped, its a joke !!!, the only title's he's credibly won of note are British and Euro, Cleverly should be fighting world class fighters and he's not, and the guys he is fighting, he's not exactly lighting the world up is he ??. ill go back to Murat, IMO he looked sentational at times against him, stylistically he hasnt had much that will make him look particlar dull, therefore based on that performance its my belief he's going backwards

Hense - he's underachieving :deal