Who are some fighters who never held a title due to robberies.

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  1. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    In the list of boxing greatest robberies they nearly always include two past or future champions, for example; Louis V Walcott, Whitaker V Chavez or Pacquiao V Bradley.
    But what are some fighters who never got to claim a title because of a major or multiple robberies?

    Matthew Macklin vs Felix Sturm immediately comes to mind. Perhaps even Jack Catterall if that Taylor rematch is never made.
     
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  2. williams7383

    williams7383 TKO 6 Klit Lickers Full Member

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    Michael Brodie
     
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  3. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    Tyrone Everett and Dave Tiberi.

    Joe Rivers, who had a double KD but the ref helped up his opponent Ad Walgast and counted him out!

    "On July 4, 1912, he fought Ad Wolgast for the lightweight title. At the beginning of the thirteenth round, he and Wolgast both landed punches that sent the other down. Wolgast fell on top of Rivers, and referee Jack Welch helped Wolgast to his feet and began the count on Rivers. Welch declared Wolgast the winner by a technical knockout, in one of the most controversial decisions in the history of boxing"

    @Greg Price99
    Also from what Greg says Packey Mcfarland
     
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  4. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    On the grand scale, the first Louis-Walcott fight was seen as a fairly comprehensive win by most observers for Jersey Joe, not the judges alas, Louis was floored twice ,once in the first and again in the 4th, looked to have been out boxing Louis for long periods of the 15 rounder, but came up short when the numbers were totalled.
    stay safe guys.
     
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  5. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Member Full Member

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    - I still think that Porky Medina beat over-the-hill James DeGale and shouldv'e been (very unlikely) champion.
    - Troy Ross beat Yoan Pablo Hernandez pretty clearly in my eyes. He was also unlucky in his first title challange against Steve Cunningham, He was dominating early but suffered a cut from what looked like a thumb.

    In Poland, there's a general feeling that Maciej Zegan is one such fighter, with his fight againss Artur Grigoryan being considered robbery - but here I didn't see that fight in a long time, so maybe it's just a local myth ).
     
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    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ken Norton
    Daniel Gonzalez
    Yaqui Lopez
    Fred Qquendo
    Earnie Shavers
     
  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    The Chagaev fight was only for a fake belt with Oquendo. I never watched it.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Robin Reid has a good case.
    Axel Schultz.
     
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  9. lone star

    lone star Active Member Full Member

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    Where Earnie Shavers get robbed? Ali fight close but there has never been mention of it being so close there was even a doubt Ali won. As for Holmes, 11th round stoppage as Shavers staggered around the ring. That 7th doing knockdown Holmes got up from fair and square.
     
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  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Armando Muniz in the first fight with Jose Napoles and Eder Gonzalez in the first fight with Juan Coggi.
     
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  11. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good subject matter, BTW. Makes one think. I wanted to jump at Eddie Davis from his first fight with Michael Spinks, but although I had him winning, many people here had Spinks winning a close one. With dispute like that it can’t be considered a robbery. Now the 2 judges who had it wide were clearly inept or unethical, as the rest of us had it closer.
     
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  12. Mastrangelo

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    Ali Funeka, another fighter that came to mind.
    He had 3 title shots. In two of those (Nate Campbell fight and Guzman rematch), opponents came in significantly overweight - and He definitely won the first Guzman fight in Canada, which They ruled a draw.
     
  13. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, reportedly Welsh's home crowd demonstrated against the draw in their May 1910 contest, such was McFarland's clear superiority in what ended up as his only world title shot.

    If the reports of his draw vs BJW being a robbery are accurate, there's a fighter even greater than McFarland who qualifies, Sam Langford.
     
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  14. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whilst Reid was probably robbed vs Ottke, he had already held a world title.
     
  15. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    Were either of Alan Rudkin's shots against Harada and Rose considered robberies?