Who are the best heavies never to get a world title?

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  1. Lunny

    Lunny Guest

    I've been looking a lot at the Heavyweight champs recently but I was just wondering who the best people were that never got a title?

    Like Shavers, where would guys like him rank? Then there's the black guys like Wills and Langford who weren't given the chance.

    Who are the top contenders?

    Cheers.
     
    Lunny, Jan 16, 2010
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  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Peter Jackson, Sam McVey, Joe Jeanette, Sam Langford, Harry Wills all due the colour bar.
     
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  3. Lunny

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    Just boxrec'd Peter Jackson because I knew he'd fought Jeffries and was wondering who else he'd fought and came across the string no contests. What's going on there?
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No decision bouts. Bouts with a rendered points decision were at the time illegal in many parts of the US. No decision bouts called for a winner to be named only in the event of a KO.
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Harry Greb deserves a mention in spite of his never weighing in at HW. I'd say he was better than McVey and possibly Jeanette.
     
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  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jackson actually goes down in history as the first black World Heavyweight Champion, when he won The Police Gazette title
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    George Godfrey, Eddie Machen, Ibeabuchi, Choynski, Maher, Tefolio Stevenson. And an honourable mention for mad Thad Spencer.
     
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  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    And Jimmy Bivins.
     
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  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think these three should be there. Or you could include guys like Risko and Neusel, Savon and so on.
     
    bodhi, Jan 16, 2010
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  10. Lunny

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    What, so they were fighting 4 round fights where if there was no KO there was no winner? Seems pretty extreme.
     
    Lunny, Jan 16, 2010
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  11. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    David Tua has never even held an alphabet strap.

    Considering he fought in an era when people like Bruce Seldon,Frans Botha,Hasim Rahman,Oleg Maskaev and John Ruiz have been called "champ" at one point or other and a guy like Tua hasn't is quite amazing when you think about it.

    Or it speaks volumes about how good Tua actually is.
     
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  12. KTFO

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    George Chuvalo
    Jerry Quarry
    Ron Lyle
    Oscar Bonavena
     
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  13. Lunny

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    I watched Ali-Quarry last night, Ali made him look like a chump with his jab. Crazy speed on that thing.
     
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  14. Rebel-INS

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    I find it odd that Tua has never won a strap. Ruiz was smashed in 19 seconds by Tua, and has won an alphabet title a few times.
     
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  15. LHL

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    Ruddock should of had one, clearly not the best heavyweight but very talented
     
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