Who Are The Fighters Perceived To Be Better Than They Actually Are?

PS If you go back and check my post you will find that I dont like to say that fighters ducked other fighters, being that I doubt that nay fighter is scared to fight any other fighter. Anyone that has ever competed on high levels of anything will tell you that you never fear your opponent, you may question how well you will do, but you never question that you can win...with that being said, I have never seen a more clear cut case of ducking then in the case of Margo not wanting to fight Williams....Say what you will about him having already fought him...He signed to fight the first time thinking that williams was a push over and even alluded to as much. NOW he knows what its like and is not that interested in doing it again...Is he scared??? I doubt it, but he knows it will be tough and another lost would be a big hit, and would kill furture earnings so that is the reason behind it....

 

You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but Margarito is not ducking a fighter he's already fought this year. He is getting pay days elsewhere, a luxury that is well deserving and arguably long over due to him. Call it what you like.

 

My point is how does one judge that a fighter isnt as good as people think??? What do you go on??? The fact that you dont like that fighter??? Its not relevant because few are actaully honest when it comes to tends like this...Example Calzaghe isnt as good as people say he is...but Why??? he has never lost a fight, and while I believe that had he fought Hopkins and Jones 4, 5 years ago he would have lost, how do I know that????

Margo is as overstated as any fighter on that list, truth be told he beat Clottey and Cotto, his fans make it sound as if he fought every fighter ranked in the top 10, and fighters are running scared..That is over rating a fighter if there is ever a case of it.

 

Your opening paragraph could be referring to any thread. We discuss such topics and issues, because we are all Boxing fans, we find it intriguing, and maybe once in a while, we actually look for an answer.

Ironically enough, your second paragraph sounds more like you were referring to fans of Williams.

 

A much smaller payday, and maybe a tougher fighter....My dad once told me, if you have two choices in life and you pick one that is ****ed, then given that chance again you shouldnt pick it again...Having fought Williams once and losing is all the more reason not to do it again..Its takes a different kind of person to take on what has already beat you....Margo has lost 5 fights and is yet to rematch the guys that has beat him.

 

Three of those defeats came extremely early on in his career so forgive me for disregarding those.

Margarito's rematch with Santos took place in Santos' back yard, at 154, and whereas Antonio weighed in at 160 on fight night, Santos was at 170. With every possible disadvantage, Margarito lost on the scorecards in a closely fought contest that I thought Margarito just about won. I can forgive Margarito for not wanting to go through that again.

As for Williams, the fight took place this year...Margarito wants to fight somebody else for the time being. Should I give him both barrels for not being in a hurry to fight Williams, who talks a lot of ****, and isn't as big of a draw as either Cotto or Mosley.

 

When they happened isnt important, the fact that he never rematched a single one of them speak louder then when the happened. Find my another elite fighter with several loses that never tried to go back and right any of them..If the Williams fight is what Margo and his fans claim as a bad night wouldnt you think that he would want to fix it???? Williams did in the fight with Quintana, Cotto does in his fight with Margo, Shane did with Wright and Forrest, Oscar did with Shane, Pac did with Morelas, Berrera did with pac. And the list goes on and on...Except Margo isnt on that list. His rematch with Santos came because the first fight was stopped in the first round, and it was a lost, so not sure what that has to do with anything...He has no problem with fighting Cintron and now Cotto again why not Williams??? Say what you will but I think there is something to it.

 

I like Bradley quite a bit and would be personally "gutted" if he comes up short in the long haul, but when we take a closer look at some of his recent performances he might be one of the more deserving nominees here. Witter looked like absolute **** the night that Bradley beat him, and the Cherry fight was a great showcase, but not the sort of masterpiece to warrant the generous terms in which Bradley is currently regarded. He's certainly not (currently) anywhere near heads and shoulders above and beyond the Witters or Cherrys of the world.

 

Oscar rematched Shane three years on. It hasn't even been a year since Williams and Margarito fought.

Barrera rematched Pacquiao four years on. It hasn't been a year since Williams and Margarito first fought.

I don't want to discuss this any further.

 

Yeah i know cuz your wrong...Rodney Jones was a Viable fighter for years after he beat Margo, only having lost to a very good Harry Simon who also beat Winky Wright, and last year to Spinks...Margo could have gone after him, and no one would have complained, it would have actaully been a good fight a few years ago. But he did. No Santos, No Jones, No williams....But NO problem with Cintron who he knocked out and Cotto who he knocked out....Oh yeah and did I mention that its was for less money:good

 

So would Edgar Sosa. Whats your point?

 

Paul Williams and Andre Berto. Everyone else deserves their high ranking.

 

Barerra and Oscar both moved up in weight and clearly wanted no part of there masters. Margarito on the other hand is still at the same weight class and has become the #1 or 2 in the division and his master is also the #1 or 2 so the logical fight at that weight class would be Margarito vs Williams 2.

You=fail.

 

If anybody is ducking Williams, it's Arum, not Margarito. As for Barrera and Oscar apparently wanting "no part of their masters", I'd have to disagree.

 

Very true :good