Who are the great pressure fighters

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not come forward stalkers, but rather guys who swarm and smother their opponents not allowing them to get comfortable or utilize their own skills?

    Just got done rd 2 of Harada vs Kingpetch and Harada is all over him almost every second of this.

    I imagine Harada and Jung Koo Chang must have been hell to try and box with the relentless pressure they brought.

    I think of guys like Fullmer, Duran, Hatton and Fenech....

    Who are some of the best swarmers you think of?
     
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    Henry Armstrong, Julio Cesar Chavez, Aaron Pryor, Roberto Duran (LW), Jeff Fenech, Fighting Harada, Jung Koo Chang.
    I know you don't agree but I always found Dwight Muhammad Qawi as one of the best pressure fighters as well. He was relentless against Holyfield I and Leon Spinks.

    Recently it's Roman Gonzalez.
     
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  3. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao deserves a mention
     
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  4. DJN16

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    Roman Gonzalez was an excellent boxer as well.
     
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  5. emallini

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    Juan Diaz
     
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  6. PhillyPhan69

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    Lol, I do disagree on Qawi....but that is cool this forum wouldn’t be worth coming to if we all agreed all the time.

    I do think Qawi is skilled and multi faceted and could fight in that manner....but I think it was more a part of his arsenal than his main approach.

    By his own words:
    I'm a counter-puncher who makes opponents pay for their mistakes. And they pay dearly .. and often,' said Braxton,

    From Rock Newman:

    Newman also said people have the wrong impression of Braxton's style.

    'Somehere along the line, some people have gotten the misconception that he's a brawler. He's a boxer.

    Link: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/0...cil-light-heavyweight-champion/9909416725200/

    Another good read on how Futch developed the plan for Spinks to beat Qawi by jabbing and not throwing the right, because they noticed a tendency he had as a counter puncher.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1992/11/09/...ing-out-in-style-with-bowe-in-his-stable.html

    So I do think he was capable as a swarmer, I just don’t think of him as one, but rather a come forward boxer counter puncher....

    But it’s all good. Cool post
     
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  7. Flo_Raiden

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    Can't forget about Paul Williams. He had that uncanny style of looking like a boxer but was more of a non stop punching machine who wouldn't stop throwing leather.
     
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    Very interesting perception on Qawi, and I don't disagree with your view. I think the same could also be said about Duran and Chavez as well. I think those 3 were very diverse with their style where they could be mistaken as come forward sluggers but were actually clever boxers who were capable of being the counter puncher.
     
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  9. PhillyPhan69

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    Yeah, we both mentioned Duran and while he could fight in a variety of ways, he was top notch as a pressure fighter in the swarmer mood. I think of JCC more of a come forward stalker boxer puncher than a swarmer.

    Always appreciate your posts in this forum by the way!
     
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    Thanks, and you as well! It's always nice to actually have an actual formal discussion of the sport on this side of the forum.
     
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    Julio Cesar Chavez's performance against Edwin Rosario is a classic example of a swarmer overwhelming an opponent, especially a dangerous power puncher like Rosario.
     
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  12. The Undefeated Lachbuster

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    Battling Nelson and Dempsey

    Feels like Swarming has kinda died down, huh? I'd classify Lomachenko as a swarmer but outside of that, not much for swarming fans. Used to be huge in the days of Greb and Armstrong
     
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  13. PhillyPhan69

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    Good example just reviewed this last month...this was Chavez at his best IMO
     
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  14. BitPlayerVesti

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    Harry Greb and Henry Armstrong have to be the top two.

    I feel that the category of swarmer really ought to be seen two, that is the Greb type volume punchers, and the Rocky types who use hard shots to break opponents.

    For some early guys, Joe Walcott and Kid Lavigne are two of the first I can think of.
     
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  15. PhillyPhan69

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    Both great mentions...I am sure Greb qualifies even though we don’t have the pleasure of watching it unfold.
     
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