Who are the greatest chinny fighters ever?

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  1. BillB

    BillB Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'll leave the question of Patterson's greatness alone. It's purely subjective and one person's opinion is no better than another's.

    Patterson was knocked down something like 21 times in 6 title fights.
    That's an all time record which will probably never be broken.

    I think that easily qualifies him as having a glass jaw.
     
  2. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Howard Davis jr. Also, there was a lightheavy I thought was very good, but didn't seem to take a punch that good. Vonzell Johnson
     
  3. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    This is the key point. When Lewis hit the canvas, the fight was OVER. That's the prime indicator of a chinny fighter.:deal
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not going to say Lewis had an ATG chin he never nut on a scale or 10 he was about a 7. The fact is he was down twice. Foreman, Frazier, Tyson, Wlad and others were down more. But somehow they all get passes and he doesn't and yes he was hit plenty of times. Just watch the Mercer and the Vitali fights as proof of that. Even the second Holyfield fight he was hit plenty of times cleanly. And against Rahman members of the local boxing community said BEFORE the fight started that due to his failure to climatize to the altitude he would've last past 6 rounds. Course they maybe thought he would get Rahman out by then but they knew he wouldn't have the stamina to go beyond that and his hands when he got hit his hands were so low it looked like he was trying to tie his shoes.
     
  5. scarecrow

    scarecrow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foreman didn't go down against Ali because of his chin. He went down because he couldn't get enough oxygen. He was so tired that he couldn't continue the fight.

    Frazier went down, but he gets a pass because it was against Foreman.

    Everybody says Wlad is packing glass. He's always been chinny.
     
  6. daverobin

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  7. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh then why was Foreman gases and not Lewis when he fought Rahman. I would argue he was also gassed. I might even argue it doesn't really matter WHY you went down just that you did.
     
  8. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think anyone with half of a brain can see a big difference between Foreman's loss to Ali and Lewis's to Rahman.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think anyone with half brain would understand the effects of having fight at altitude without adjusting for it. It's pretty basic science really but l guess education isn't your strong suit.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll post an article tomorrow when l'm on a computer instead of a phone, but one guy who disagrees with you is Foreman himself.
     
  11. Hookie

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    Donald Curry, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, Michael Moorer, Floyd Patterson, same at even say Lennox Lewis but he took any good shots without blinking as well.
     
  12. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about you simpleton? Lewis was starched cold by a single shot, after the punch he looked like he'd just woke up from being anesthetized. Foreman had all his senses he was just too exhausted to get up in time. Of course common sense isn't your strong point so it goes straight over your dumb head...
     
  13. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm the simpleton? You uneducated illiterate moron. Don't you know ANYTHING AT ALL, about the effects of undertaking a sports activity at high elevation without acclimatising for it? or are you just stupid?

    Pick one.


    This was Foreman's comments about the fight


    "Lewis was over-confident," said Foreman, "and I think it's a reflection on his trainer [Emanuel Steward]. If you bring a guy into training camp and he's not in shape, then don't bring him down to the fight. It was a case of hands down, walking forward, disregarding a man you have seen films of but all you look at is the clip where he was knocked out and you try to replicate that. It happened to me when I fought Ali in '74. I thought I was going to knock him out in two. Instead my hands are down, my head is up and I end up losing."


    Foreman is essentially saying the EXACT SAME THING THAT HAPPENED TO HIM HAPPENED TO LEWIS.



    and here's another opinion.


    The Sky television commentator and former world cruiserweight champion Glenn McCrory was among those who had attended a Las Vegas press conference Lewis gave on the day when Naseem Hamed saw his world come tumbling down when he was outboxed by the Mexican Marco Antonio Berrera.
    "I could hardly believe what I was hearing. There was Lennox saying that going to fight in Johannesburg, which is 6,000ft above sea level, would be no problem. He was saying that altitude would have no effect on him and that we shouldn't believe what the scientists say. It was as if he really believed that he was different from every other man," said McCrory.


    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2001/dec/19/boxing.johnrawling


    Now why don't you get off this site and go get yourself an education? And since we know that's never going to happen here's an article outlining the effects of elevation on an athletes performance.


    http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/acclimatization-to-altitude.html


    Now that you've read that, explain to me why one of these boxers, in this case Foreman, gets a complete pass, and other, doesn't, when the circumstances are essentially identical.
     
  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Walcott was chinny but wasn't great so he doesn't count.
     
  15. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    Exactly.he is just a stupid troll