Who are the guys Roy Jones should have fought?

They gave one to Berto, who has been cherrypicking from the lww division ever since

 

not the same thing. Jones and other guys back in the day like Forrest had guaranteed exclusive deals that is not what the fighters today have.

 

He should have probably rematched hopkins, fought calshitbag earlier, and dariusz at some point.

If he had some real stones he would have taken on Lewis though. He'd be a top ten ranker imo if he pulled a Fitzsimmons.

 

Its basically the same thing, they are paying him licensing fess of around 1.5M and Berto is free to choose his opponents

http://a.espncdn.com/boxing/a/2002/0904/1427223.html

 

Think of this scenario after he beat Ruiz at Heavyweight for the WBA belt:

fought Byrd who was a smaller Heavyweight and a very winnable fight for Jones. He then becomes the unified WBA\IBF champion.

By that time Brewster had stopped Klitschko so he could have fought Brewster which again if Jones ran and pot shotted was a very winnable fight for him. He then becomes the unified WBA\IBF\WBO Heavyweight champion.

How would he have been thought of now if he were to do this instead of going back to Light Heavyweight and getting brutally and embarrassingly KOed twice.

What I outlined above if Jones had any balls was not impossible for him to accomplish and we all know how much Jones loved collecting trinket belts.

He probably should of stayed at Heavyweight I mean there would have been no shame if he was starched by a legit Heavyweight instead of Tarver and feather fisted Glen Johnson.

 

If you watch the countdown to Jones-Tarver 3(on youtube), Lampley says that Jones only fought Ruiz, because he saw him as a low risk opponent. He saw fights with all the other hws as high risk, which is the reason he moved back down to lhw to fight Tarver (the man he ducked in 2000).

From my understanding of it, after he beat Toney he promised Seth Abraham that he would fight the best guys out there, he wanted to be a ATG etc, etc. But once he got the contract he didnt want to fight high risk guys. Why fight Darius M for 2.5M, when you can fight a cop for almost 2M instead?

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/6327/boxing-mantle-roy-jones-legacy/

http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/hbo-boxing-the-challenge

 

I agree; McClellan was a spectacular fighter and a huge puncher, but also somewhat limited and I don't think a fight between him and Roy in 95 would not have been close. He would've humiliated Gerald over 12 rounds.

 

yes there was a shitload of fighters Jones could have fought, but even still Jones has a very very good resume. Even Rico i think can agree with.

 

i'll post all the names when i get back from work

 

I have answered your question

Frankie Liles: Liles wanted to unify with Jones 94 to 97
Steve Collins: was calling him out 95 to 97
Nunn: could of fought him at smw or at lhw when Nunn was his mandatory(1998)
Benn: Calling him out 95
Eubank: Offered him a fight in 96, Jones turned it down. Saying that now you have lost twice to Collins, you are no good to me
Jirov: HBO wanted this fight, Jones turned it down(2002), its when HBO really had enough of him and started to openly bad mouth his choice of opponents
G-man: wanted to unify at mw(93)
Julian Jackson: wanted to fight him at mw(92-93)
Darius M: wanted to unify, but didnt want to leave Germany
Vitali K: Jones wba hw mandatory (2003)

So what you are saying is, is that because he beat Toney,he didnt really have to fight anyone else?

Frankie Liles/ Nunn/Tarver:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmfgG3ZlCc0[/ame]

Go to 9:30

http://www.associatedcontent.com/ar..._frankie_liles_champion_boxer_pg2.html?cat=49
When Nunn became his mandatory Jones priced himself out of the fight and then vacated his belt
http://news.google.ie/newspapers?id...=5461,8093720&dq=roy+jones+michael+nunn&hl=en

http://cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/box12-97.htm
And finally when Tarver became his mandatory in 2000, he wrote a letter to the ibf demanding that Tarver must face Harding in a elimanator fight.

http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/480/roy-jones-all-time-great-hardly/

 

Gerald McClellan:
As well as the sums on offer, each of them ha the prospect of meeting the unbeaten Roy Jones for more money than they'd ever earned before. McClellan reckoned that the match-up was his: he'd beaten Jones as an amateur, and he was getting better with each fight. Neither boxer was to know that Jones had no intention of risking his reputation against anyone remotely dangerous, that he would pad out his career against a succession of second-rate opponents while somehow convincing his media admirers he was the best pound for pound operator in the business

The start to Gerald's career should have been that of a groomed and favoured prospect. After all, despite missing the Olympics in 1988, he was an exceptional amateur and by now he was hooked up with Manny Steward at the Kronk, he most famous gym in the world. His career didn't so much as fly at first, however, as glide into a swamp.

There are not two ways of doing things, just Manny's. Gerald wanted to go with Sugar Ray Leonard in the first instance, but when he saw Leonard leaning towards Roy Jones Jr and when Roy Jones went to the Seoul instead of him, Gerald got mad. He knew then he needed a fresh start after his amateur career had stalled near the hilltop. And that's how Gerald made it to Detroit.

In November, McClellan came to London for the first time and put a shadow of the once awesome John Mugabi away in a round to win the World Boxing Organisation's version of the middleweight championship. He impressed his London audience with the ruthlessness of his finishing, even if the title was more cardboard than gold and the opponent was shot.

McClellan looked his usual awesome self in knocking Mugabi down three times and the tile was OK, but not enough. He hungered for the genuine big time, he wanted to know, the big money? Why wasn't he fighting Jones?
Roy Jones, meanwhile, was pulling away fro Gerald. He'd come home from Seoul a martyr, the victim of outrageous judging, and signed a big contract to turn professional. Where Gerald was quiet, sometimes sullen, Jones had a mouthy edge - but the TV liked him, and even used him in ads to promote their boxing programmes. He was being groomed while Gerald was being ignored.

Gerald couldn't wait. he was chasing Jones. That would make his career. To get to Jones, he'd have to go through Benn first. But he didn't think that would be a problem. For Gerald, nothing was a problem.
McClellan, meanwhile, was eager for a challenge. He told King,” I’m ready now for Julian Jackson, anyone out there - James Toney, Roy Jones, all the big name guys - coz my names big too"
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=257045
McClellan was the WBC champion from 93-94, the same time that Jones was the IBF champion

 

Eubank, Collins, Benn, etc as great as they were during their times why were they not rated as high as Toney was? Toney was undefeated and p4p one of the best. He was even considered the favorite to beat RJJ. Toney in his prime was close to unbeatable and RJJ schooled him as he would of schooled Calzaghe and the rest of Europe. Not to disrespect, but it's the truth. Joe did the right thing in fighting RJ when RJ was completely shot because he wouldn't of have been undefeated today.

 

Forget Collins, that wouldn't have even been a contest.

 

Gerald McClellan shouldn't even be mentioned...If Gerald beat Benn the fight would have been huge and Jones Vs. McClellan would have happened.


anyways heres the list. Pretty much like the guy before me except i have more points.


Frankie Liles - 1995-1996. Liles was offered a 7 figure contract from what i heard but he had turned it down. Also Don King had exclusive rights to Liles from 1991-1999 and was a part of Showtime whereas as Roy Jones was HBO

Steve Collins - 1997-1998. I'm not too sure why the fight didn't happen, I don't think Jones was ducking Collins at all. Roy would have easily toyed with Collins if they had fought, I just don't get why this easily winnable fight didn't happen. Obviously the fight was offered to Collins in like 1999 if he had got past Calzaghe but Collins collapsed in training. By that time anyway Collins was well past prime.

Nigel Benn - 1993 & 1995. In 1993 a fight between him and Benn was offered to him but Roy was way too inexperienced at this time. He only had Vaca and Castro on his resume so far and Castro wasn't even a name then until 1994 when he beat Johnson. Instead Of the Benn fight at Super Middleweight he faced Bernard Hopkins at Middleweight. In 1995 obviously Benn just beat McClellan and the fight should have been made but I'm not sure why.

Dariusz Michalczewski - 1998-2001. Fight didn't get made because neither fighter wanted to leave their home country.

Bernard Hopkins 2 - 2002. Roy Jones offered Hopkins 60/40 to fight. Bernard turned it down. I think 60/40 was perfectly fair because Roy already beat Hopkins once and also had the better name fighters on his resume at the time.

Chris Eubank - 1996. Before 1996 Roy use to call Eubank himself and say "When are you gonna give Roy a shot at that belt Chris?" But Eubank always declined saying Roy jones was pretty much a no name fighter at the time. Fast forward to 1996 Chris Eubank says he wants to face Roy Jones, but what good would this do to Jones now? Eubank lost two fights to Steve Collins in 1995, Eubank only wanted this fight to see if he could get a big payday again.

Michael Nunn - I'm not too sure what went on here. Everybody says Roy ducked Nunn but at least Roy did offer him $125,000 to fight him....i mean if you're ducking somebody you wouldn't even offer him money.


Hopefully that covers it.