Who are the heavies to KO Haye?

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  1. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    None.

    All the other heavies are bums. Haye said so himself.
     
  2. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I suggest you watch from the begining and see why Haye was knackered.

    He was training like an amatuer and only had 3 or 4 rounds in him in those days. Proof is in the video as you say.....
     
  3. iceman

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    Most of the heavies could KO Haye but chances are Haye will have most of them on their backs before they can get to him.I think that Wlad would be too much for Haye and a fight with Valuev would be a difficult match-up but the rest are there for the taking.
    Just look at the huge speed and skill difference between Haye's win over Enzo and Peters pathetic performance against Maskaev and its fairly obvious that Haye can climb the heavyweight rankings very quickly
     
  4. geppy

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    Indeed. Haye is entering a division of bulls, with a china chin. Haye is going to get caught and laid out big time.

    Jean Marc Mormeck's power at HW would be considered close to nothing. Mormeck throws way too many punches until he gets tired and is physically done. One punch from a non-hard punching Cruiserweight had Haye on spagetti legs and ready to go.
     
  5. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hayes weak chin will not hold up at the Heavyweight level, his skills are superior, but his chin and the placement of his hands, he's just asking to be knocked out. Sam Peter would pressure and maul him, and Haye would collapse from the punishment. A light punching Thompson knocked him down with a partially blocked punch, which doesnt bode too well for Haye's Heavyweight future.
     
  6. joeboxer

    joeboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would pick Chagaev to beat Haye by either ko or points.
     
  7. geppy

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    Haye is more the second coming of Herbie Hide then some HW savior. Haye has a bad chin and lacks the defense to protect it! Haye aint doing **** at HW, deep down he knows it. Haye wants an immediate shot at Klitschko, before some average but hard punching HW knocks Haye the **** out and he don't get a chance.
     
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  9. TheGreat

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    I think Haye can do quite well and would have a chance against any HW simply because the division is weaker than ever IMO. Even the 80's had far more talent than Today division. Aside from Wlad Haye should be favored against anyone he fights at that weight.
     
  10. geppy

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    Haye is going to find out that all the Heavyweights hit hard. Much harder then a 40 year old like Thompson, or journymen Cruiserweight like Mock ( who rocked the **** of Haye).

    Haye could be fighting Tua, Peter, Ibragimov, Valuev, Mccline, T.O.S Williamson, Mccall or any mid to upper level HW. They could all KTFO of Haye . Haye is not RJJ, Floyd Mayweather or something, Haye just hits hard for CW and has average skills. Haye gets caught he will be in trouble.
     
  11. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not sure about KO, but I'd fancy Wlad and Valuev to beat him over 12 rounds. Other than that, Haye has as good a chance as anyone. And he's exciting too - I hope he goes all the way!
     
  12. MattMattMatt

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    Proof is in the video? Yes, that Haye was knackered! That rate that he was fighting just before 8:15 is laughable compared to the rate in the first few rounds - he was throwing single shots time and time again because he had exhausted himself. The commentators even said said, "his mouth is open, he's breathing heavily and he's looking for the single shot" moments before Carl landed that good shot.

    In the whole of Haye's boxing career up to that point had never done more than 4 rounds in a competitive bout (all of Pro + Ams), throughout his entire amateur career he went for the KO and never fought for the points, since turning pro he had terrible dedication and didn't train properly at all - so when he tried to do what he had always done, and failed to get the early KO he did not have good conditioning to fall back on. He exhausted himself, he couldn't throw more than one punch at a time, his feet were heavy, his reactions slowed and he became much easier to hit - Carl just made the most of it.

    Now he trains properly, takes boxing seriously (he had a fights at the playboy mansion not that long before the Thompson fight!) and wont be weight drained. I don't see the conditioning thing being an such an issue again.
     
  13. Hugh Jerrod

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    Wlad would wipe his ass with him.
     
  14. TheGreat

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    Today's HWs don't even have average skill, believe me he has a shot.
     
  15. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ibragimov would outbox him and knock his ass out. Same with Chagaev. Vlad would flat out murder Haye. Vitali when he beats Peter, would brutalize him, then murder him. Haye is not that good, he just punches hard for Cruiswerweight, has avergae skills, weak chin at CW, and questionable stanima.

    Haye wants an immediate title shot against Vlad because, he very well could be taken the **** out by the first big HW punch Haye takes and then never get a title shot.
     
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