Who are the supernaturals, all time and current?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Oct 12, 2007.


  1. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Now, first, we have to define a 'supernatural' as different from a 'phenominal fighter'. A supernatural has to have great speed combined with skill and also has to have the ability to utterly brutalise their peers and also has to have great heart. This alone shuts out many fast boxers who are phenominal, such as Floyd Mayweather. Manny Pac has supernatural ability, but is far too rough around the edges to be considered in this 'special' class.

    Mayweather was a potential 'supernatural' at 130-135, but has since become too conservative in style to be considered as such. A supernatural lets those damn hands just fly, shreds an opponent and beautifully executes artistic brutality for out entertainment through the highest of skill level, some are also warriors in the same.

    A 'supernatural' is not the best fighter necessarily, they are just simply - supernatural - SO sweet it's just SICK.

    Current:

    Joe Calzaghe
    Cristian Mijares
    Ivan Calderon
    Joan Guzman

    All time:

    Roy Jones Jr.
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Muhammad Ali(peak)
    Nicolino Locche;)
    Pernell Whitaker
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Aaron Pryor
    Thomas Hearns
    Alexis Arguello
    Mike Tyson(peak)
    Roberto Duran
    Meldrick Taylor


    ...................... let's continue the list.

    Remember, no conservative guys, these guys have to be just sickeningly sweet(style doesn't matter, swarmers can be amazing to watch) with speed+skill+heart. You have to watch the guy and think 'that's some amazing, supernatural, phenominal ****'.
     
  2. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Pernells the one that came instantly to mind...

    ...Monzon was a supernatural but wasnt the quickest
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Monzon was 'phenominal', he was methodical and paced.

    Pernell should always come to mind, Jones also.

    Ray Robinson was the original for his era. Nobody better say Pep, he just ran, Pernell would stand in the trenches and make you miss and look stupid.
     
  4. The Exile

    The Exile FUBAR Full Member

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    Hearns?

    Was a beast at his peak and could blow away his peers.
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I added him, he was without a doubt supernatural.:good
     
  6. MilesP

    MilesP Member Full Member

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    he doesn't fit in with your all time list too well...but I'd still consider Naseem Hamed a 'supernatural'
     
  7. bob hingley

    bob hingley Member Full Member

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    Sounds like your describing Tommy Hearns
     
  8. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Yeh, thats a better description for Monzon:good
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Definitley had supernatural ability, but he never really stepped up to the supernatural level. Just imagine if he would have gotten down at least really solid basic skill level to go with his speed, power and timing, he'd have been really amazing.

    Guy would have been a top tier Supernatural had he developed better in my opinion.
     
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    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who did Sweet Pea brutalize, again? I'm not arguing labelling his skills "supernatural", but you explicitly stated "no conservative guys" and "ability to brutalize their opponents".
     
  12. The Exile

    The Exile FUBAR Full Member

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    MilesP Member Full Member

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    the funny thing about Hamed is that when Manny Steward tried to make him fight more of textbook style it really contributed to Hamed's decline.

    He should have stayed with a trainer that understood his style...Ingle or even Herol Graham.

    so much untapped potential..

    When it comes to 'artistic brutality for our entertainment' Nas is definitely on my list though :bbb
     
  14. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    Not really sure about the heart category but from '86-'90 Mike Tyson was the supernatural.
     
  15. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I do not agree with Calzaghe on the list... his opposition is too lacking much like your criteria for Hamed.
    If he Brutalizes Kessler i will reconsider though.