who are the top 5 trainers of all time?

What? No love for Don Turner, Thel Torrence, or Tommy Brooks? Glad to see that Ronnie Shields got honorable mention, he is a good trainer. Roger Bloodworth is also a pretty damn good trainer.

 

Alfred (trained Batman and Robin)
Jor-el (trained Superman)
Amazons (trained Wonder Woman)
Captain Picard (trained Will Riker)
John Holmes (trained many a woman)

 

Panama Lewis
Capetello
Norman Stone
Yoel Judah
Buddy Mcgirt

 

1 Eddie Futch
2 Angelo Dundee
3 Freddie Roach
4 Ray Arcel
5 Curtis Cokes

 

Ultimately, the only true measure of a trainer isn't the number of great fighters they produce, but how much they can get out of complete **** or mediocre fighters.

Ali, Sugar Ray and RJJ probably would have been successful NO MATTER WHAT. Maybe their trainers gave them an edge, but in the end, you can't say that a trainer is great because he was with great fighters.

So we have to look at a guy's track record. Everyone is blasting Atlas--rightfully so-- because he ****ed things up with Michael Moorer, threatened to kill Donny LaLonde (after overworking him), and has a terrible track record as an analyst.

Enzo had a super-talented son, but I rate him as a great trainer because he made complete **** alcoholic bums like Gavin Rees and Enzo Mac titlists! That's a great trainer right there.

Eddie Futch gets mad props. Every HW he worked with was great.

McGirt is a bad trainer, and we've heard him give **** advice in corners...

Cus D'Amato had a mediocre fighter in Floyd Patterson as HW champ, that says a lot more than Tyson smashing everyone in his path.

 

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Worlds best trainers right there!

 

No Charlie Goldman? Oh boy... but a bunch of people have Enzo Calzaghe? The Jazz Musician.

 

If you look at it from this standpoint, then I must mention Ronnie Shields (as somebody did earlier). He is often on the losing side of big fights, which says nothing at all about his training. He puts his heart and soul into underdog after underdog and gets a hell of a spirited effort out of adverse situations. I'd like to see how some of these bigger name trainers would do with the same underdog fighters. Better yet, how would Ronnie Shields do if the world's best talent fell into his lap?

 

Freddie Brown trained a lot of good fighters, and along with Ray Arcel trained Duran.

Petronelli developed Hagler from amateur days, and has sucess with others, his staying in small town (Brockton) has hurt his opportunities to work with more fighters, but he's great trainer.

I won't make a top five list (Sorry) but I will through in another overlooked name for consideration. Billy Giles.

Giles trained Hector Camacho as amatur, Camacho won several amateur tournements under him, and Camacho was with him till just after he won first title. Featherwiehgt, I think.

Giles then took on Arron Davis as beginner, took him to NYC Golden Gloves title, then pro title at 147.

Giles also gave Malinaggi first training, took him to amateur title, then pros, was fired after Cotto loss.

Three guys taken from total beginner to titles and title fights, in three different decades. That is impressive, to me anyway. Yet how often do we see Giles mentioned as top trainer?

D'Amato was good, but with certain guys only, those who could adopt to style he taught.

 

Stoney FTW

 

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Cus D'amato
Nacho Beristain

the best forget the rest

 

Futch
Roach
Berinstein
Richardson
Dundee