Who are the worst Ranked/undeserved p4p ranked fighters

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  1. JohnAnthony

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    Using this List

    [url]http://www.****************/boxing-history/9101-past-pound-pound-lists.html[/url]

    2 Questions -
    Who is the worst fighter in these lists?
    Who is the most undeserving fighter at the time they made the list?


    My Answers

    Underserving

    Floyd was ranked number 8 in 1998, when all he'd done so far was win one belt against Hernandez and defend it once. (And people make fun of Broner for being in it, when he's had multiple belts already)

    Worst Fighter
    Jermaine Taylor at Number 4 in 2006
     
  2. JohnAnthony

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    1980

    KO Magazine (January)
    1 - Roberto Duran
    2 - Sugar Ray Leonard
    3 - Wilfredo Gomez
    4 - Danny Lopez
    5 - Pipino Cuevas
    6 - Alexis Arguello
    7 - Larry Holmes
    8 - Wilfred Benitez
    9 - Vito Antuofermo/Matt Saad Muhammad (tie)


    1981

    KO Magazine (January)
    1 - Thomas Hearns
    2 - Sugar Ray Leonard
    3 - Marvin Hagler
    4 - Larry Holmes
    5 - Alexis Arguello
    6 - Wilfredo Gomez
    7 - Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    8 - Matt Saad Muhammmad
    9 - Wilfred Benitez
    10 - Roberto Duran/Aaron Pryor (tie)

    1982

    KO Magazine
    1. Sugar Ray Leonard
    2. Alexis Arguello
    3. Marvin Hagler
    4. Salvador Sanchez
    5. Wilfred Benitez
    6. Larry Holmes
    7. Jeff Chandler
    8. Eusebio Pedroza
    9. Aaron Pryor
    10. Thomas Hearns/Dwight Braxton* (tie)

    *Dwight Muhammad Qawi

    1983

    KO Magazine
    1. Marvin Hagler
    2. Aaron Pryor
    3. Larry Holmes
    4. Michael Spinks
    5. Jeff Chandler
    6. Thomas Hearns
    7. Alexis Arguello
    8. Wilfredo Gomez
    9. Hector Camacho
    10. Eusebio Pedroza

    1984

    KO Magazine
    1. Marvin Hagler
    2. Aaron Pryor
    3. Larry Holmes
    4. Eusebio Pedroza
    5. Hector Camacho
    6. Ray Leonard
    6. Jeff Chandler
    8. Michael Spinks
    9. Thomas Hearns
    10. Donald Curry

    1985

    KO Magazine
    1. Marvin Hagler
    2. Hector Camacho
    3. Michael Spinks
    4. Donald Curry
    5. Thomas Hearns
    6. Barry McGuigan
    7. Milton McCrory
    8. Julio Cesar Chavez
    8. Pinklon Thomas
    10. Larry Holmes

    1986

    KO Magazine
    1. Marvin Hagler
    2. Mike Tyson
    3. Donald Curry
    4. Thomas Hearns
    5. Edwin Rosario
    6. Azumah Nelson
    6. Michael Spinks
    8. Evander Holyfield
    9. Julio Cesar Chavez
    10. Hector Camacho

    1988

    KO Magazine
    1. Mike Tyson
    2. Julio Cesar Chavez
    3. Evander Holyfield
    4. Ray Leonard
    5. Jeff Fenech
    6. Michael Nunn
    7. Azumah Nelson
    8. Jung Koo Chang
    9. Buddy McGirt
    10. Sumbu Kalambay

    1989

    1. Mike Tyson
    2. Julio Cesar Chavez
    3. Pernell Whitaker
    4. Michael Nunn
    5. Antonio Esparragoza
    6. Meldrick Taylor
    7. Azumah Nelson
    8. Raul Perez
    9. Virgil Hill
    10. Marlon Starling

    1990

    1. Julio Cesar Chavez
    2. Pernell Whitaker
    3. Michael Nunn
    4. Antonio Esparragoza
    5. Meldrick Taylor
    6. Evander Holyfield
    7. Mike Tyson
    8. Raul Perez
    9. Myung-Woo Yuh
    10. Khaosai Galaxy

    1992

    1. Julio Cesar Chavez
    2. Pernell Whitaker
    3. Terry Norris
    4. Orlando Canizales
    5. James (Buddy) McGirt
    6. Riddick Bowe
    7. Azumah Nelson
    8. Sung-Kil Moon
    9. Julian Jackson
    10. James Toney

    1993

    1. Pernell Whitaker
    2. Julio Cesar Chavez
    3. James Toney
    4. Michael Carbajal
    5. Orlando Canizales
    6. Evander Holyfield
    7. Ricardo Lopez
    8. Roy Jones Jr.
    9. Kennedy McKinney
    10. Yuri Arbachakov

    1994

    1. Pernell Whitaker
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Orlando Canizales
    4. Ricardo Lopez
    5. Humberto Gonzalez
    6. Frankie Randall
    7. Felix Trinidad
    8. Gerald McClellan
    9. Miguel Angel Gonzalez
    10. Kevin Kelley

    1995

    1. Pernell Whitaker
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Ricardo Lopez
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Felix Trinidad
    6. Yuri Arbachakov
    7. Kostya Tszyu
    8. Riddick Bowe
    9. Marco Antonio Barrera
    10. Terry Norris

    1996

    1. Roy Jones Jr.
    2. Oscar De La Hoya
    3. Pernell Whitaker
    4. Felix Trinidad
    5. Ricardo Lopez
    6. Junior Jones
    7. Kostya Tszyu
    8. Terry Norris
    9. Evander Holyfield
    10. Mark Johnson

    1997

    KO Magazine
    1. Oscar De La Hoya
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Felix Trinidad
    4. Pernell Whitaker
    5. Evander Holyfield
    6. Terry Norris
    7. Junior Jones
    8. Ricardo Lopez
    9. Ike Quartey
    10. Mark Johnson

    1998

    1. Oscar De La Hoya
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Evander Holyfield
    4. Felix Trinidad
    5. Mark Johnson
    6. Shane Mosley
    7. Ricardo Lopez
    8. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    9. Naseem Hamed
    10. Johnny Tapia

    1999

    1. Roy Jones Jr.
    2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    3. Felix Trinidad
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Shane Mosley
    6. Mark Johnson
    7. Ricardo Lopez
    8. Erik Morales
    9. Bernard Hopkins
    10. Stevie Johnston

    2000

    1. Shane Mosley
    2. Felix Trinidad
    3. Roy Jones Jr.
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Diego Corrales
    6. Naseem Hamed
    7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    8. Lennox Lewis
    9. Erik Morales
    10. Bernard Hopkins

    2001

    1. Shane Mosley
    2. Bernard Hopkins
    3. Roy Jones Jr.
    4. Marco Antonio Barrera
    5. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    6. Felix Trinidad
    7. Oscar De La Hoya
    8. Ricardo Lopez
    9. Kostya Tszyu
    10. Erik Morales

    2002

    1. Bernard Hopkins
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Marco Antonio Barrera
    4. Vernon Forrest
    5. Oscar De La Hoya
    6. Kostya Tszyu
    7. Erik Morales
    8. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    9. Lennox Lewis
    10. Shane Mosley

    2003

    1. Roy Jones Jr.
    2. Bernard Hopkins
    3. Shane Mosley
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    6. Manny Pacquiao
    7. Kostya Tszyu
    8. Erik Morales
    9. James Toney
    10. Antonio Tarver

    2004

    1. Bernard Hopkins
    2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    3. Kostya Tszyu
    4. Ronald (Winky) Wright
    5. Manny Pacquiao
    6. Juan Manuel Marquez
    7. Marco Antonio Barrera
    8. Erik Morales
    9. Glen Johnson
    10. Antonio Tarver

    2005

    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Ronald (Winky) Wright
    3. Marco Antonio Barrera
    4. Ricky Hatton
    5. Manny Pacquiao
    6. Erik Morales
    7. Juan Manuel Marquez
    8. Rafael Marquez
    9. Jose Luis Castillo
    10. Zab Judah

    2006

    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Ronald (Winky) Wright
    4. Jermain Taylor
    5. Bernard Hopkins
    6. Marco Antonio Barrera
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Ricky Hatton
    9. Jose Luis Castillo
    10. Joe Calzaghe

    2007

    Doug Fischer - Maxboxing.com
    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Joe Calzaghe
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Bernard Hopkins
    6. Israel Vazquez/Rafael Marquez
    8. Miguel Cotto
    9. Ivan Calderon
    10. Winky Wright

    2008

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Joe Calzaghe
    4. Bernard Hopkins
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Antonio Margarito
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Miguel Cotto
    9. Ivan Calderon
    10. Ricky Hatton
     
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  4. Hands of Iron

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    Duran, Hearns and Hagler were all #1 P4P when Leonard beat them. :lol:
     
  5. macalpinerules

    macalpinerules Active Member Full Member

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    What does that say about Leonard?
     
  6. Bogotazo

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    Thanks for posting.

    Real scary to see the drop off. I'm not one who thinks boxing is on the brink of going off the deep end and drowning in terms of talent or anything, but it's disconcerting to see the stacks of P4P lists filled with exclusively ATG's and HOFers, and then look at the most recent eras.
     
  7. Hands of Iron

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    Well I don't know, he gets no credit for two out of three of those wins here so probably nothing. I imagine had they done a poll for '79, Benitez would've been in the Top 5 easily going into the fight with Leonard, maybe even top 3 given his skills. He obviously got bumped down from the loss but was still considered elite '80-'82.
     
  8. PityTheFool

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    You know exactly what it says.:D


    It says more people need to look in the magic mirror and ask that very important question :yep
     
  9. PityTheFool

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    Great read mate.
    I was thinking about Winky the other day and I wonder where a guy like JC Vasquez would sit in today's list(if at all)
     
  10. MrMagic

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    Current?
    Broner, period.
     
  11. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    Haha, noones even answering the thread title.
     
  12. JohnAnthony

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    he currently is undeserved true. But compare it to Floyd in 98.

    Floyd had only just won the belt against hernandez, his 1st belt, and defended it just once.

    Broner is at least a 3 weight champ at this point.
     
  13. pride4jc1222

    pride4jc1222 Active Member Full Member

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    This list for 1990 is just laughable. First, Julio Cesar Chavez does not belong at #1. Secondly, Meldrick Taylor and Mike Tyson do not belong in the Top 10 for that year.

    Evander Holyfield should have been #1. However, I will not waste my time trying to fix this pathetic list.
     
  14. Kevin Jesus

    Kevin Jesus Active Member Full Member

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    You realize Floyd didn't only beat Hernandez for the WBC title, it was also for the 130 Lineal title? Meaning Floyd was the man to beat.

    Broner has yet to win The Ring title in any weight class he has campaigned in and currently he is the most undeserving fighter in the top 10 P4P along with Pacquiao.
     
  15. Hands of Iron

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    Yeah, something like that isn't going to be done again, Ever. Even if it did happen, what are the chances they'd be equivalent to that trio?

    Benitez (38-0, Top 5 P4P)
    Duran (72-1, #1 P4P)
    Hearns (32-0, #1 P4P)
    Hagler (62-2, #1 P4P)

    Throw in a 36-0 RING/Lineal 154 Champ Ayub Kalule and you've got what with those top five wins?