Who Are Your Second Ten All Time P4P?

I prefer to say Post War due to lack of footage

Armstrong
Duran
Charles
Robinson
Pep
Monzon
McCallum
Toney
Moore
Whitaker
Chavez
Napoles
Leonard
Hearns
Hagler
Ali
Olivares
Saddler
Griffith
Jofre

 

I'd need to think about this way more, and there's some eras I just don't know enough, so I've probably missed a few that merit inclusion.
Tier 1
Bob Fitzsimmons, Sam Langford
Tier 2
Sugar Ray Robinson, Harry Greb, Henry Armstrong, Ezzard Charles
Tier 3
Jimmy Wilde, Jem Mace, Archie Moore

Some candidates that come to mind for the next level (vaguely in order, after the few stand outs (to me) above I think there's a lot that are hard to pick between)
Floyd Mayweather Jr., Muhammad Ali, Joe Gans, Packey McFarland, Tommy Ryan, Gene Tunney, Terry McGovern, Charley Burley, Barney Ross, Joe Walcott, Roberto Duran, Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, Sugar Ray Leonard, Billy Conn, Joe Louis, Roy Jones Jr., Philadelphia Jack O'Brien, Willie Pep, Rocky Marciano, Evander Holyfeild, Manny Pacquiao

A few the next level down, but I feel like mentioning (skipping some out)
Owen Moran, Young Peter Jackson, Len Harvey, Dan Creedon, James Braddock, Andre Ward (though if he comes back and win a legit heavyweight title, he'll be straight in the tier 2 )

There's a few other early ones with very good reputations, but I just don't think there's enough information, atleast to my knowledge, to really rank at all like Nonpareil Jack Dempsey and Ike Weir

 

11. B Leonard
12. Louis
13. Walker
14. Wilde
15. Ray Leonard
16. Saddler
17. Ross
18. Moore
19. Ketchel
20. Burley
Just missing the cut is Jofre at 21.

 

I don`t think Ward`s got the built to do it at heavy, when you say legit are you talking about Wilder and AJ, I mean that would be insane, their reaches would be far too much! If he could do tat I think he could be considered in the Top 10, he would have toyed with Ruiz though.

 

A first-cut go at this brings me the following names:

Benny Leonard
Mickey Walker
Archie Moore
Willie Pep
Barney Ross
Stanley Ketchel
Tony Canzoneri
Jimmy Wilde
Sandy Saddler
Charley Burley

The above is in no particular order and could (and quite probably will) change frequently - but, not need a complete rethink, I would hope.

 

Art Frias
Sylvester Kennon
Gino Gelermino
Al "Earthquake" Carter R. I. P.
In Chul Baek
Murray Sutherland
Mexican Joe Rivers
Paul Berlenbach
Curtis Parker
Jack Blackburn

 

Just ten!
Ketchel
Mc Farland
Steele
Chavez
Arguello
Napoles
Moore
Canzoneri
Hagler
Harada
I forgot Mike Gibbons I will bump Harada for Mike Gibbons.

 

There are some very knowledgeable fans on here with these lists. Can't argue much about most choices in general and when looking at the caliber of these fighters a question comes up,, where does Floyd Mayweather come in at?
around 25 to 30?

 

Please put him in place of manny Pac because he really brings your otherwise fine list down

 

Good seeing Davey get his due but how can he be above Duran?