Who Are Your Top 5 Welterweights???

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  1. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bradley and Matthysse were both shopworn and effectively retired afterwards, Jessie Vargas isn't all that good, Broner is what he is. The Horn "win" was a very good one against a gigantic, physical opponent and he was absolutely robbed though. I think the fact that he's at this stage of his career and still considered a top 10 guy means a lot of people are still giving him credit. I still personally think he beats everyone else lower tier top 10 at WW. And even though I think he loses to the upper tier, I think he's fairly competitive with everyone "except Crawford stylistically".
     
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  2. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Bradley had just handily outboxed a monster and hulked-out Marquez who just secured one of the greatest KOs in the history of boxing. And did you forget that Pac was a victim of that KO?

    Vargas is a good Top 10 guy and is a tough out for anyone on any night. I doubt he gets comprehensively shut out by any of the other welters. MAYBE Crawford.

    Pac dominated Broner more impressively than Maidana/Mikey.
     
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  3. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Crawford would tear that ass up he will do what Mayweather did and Marquez did

    Crawford would outbox Pacquiao first then knock him out later . It would be the beating of a century
     
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  4. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marquez vs. Bradley is an anomaly. Marquez was not a WW at all, not even a JWW. He looked good against Pac at the higher weight because there really was no size advantage. Marquez wouldn't look good against any other WW either. Back to Bradley, the Pac fights (2 and 3) were after his brain and career destroying war with Provodnikov. Bradley wasn't the same and the clock was ticking. How else do you explain his struggle against Chaves and why else do you think no punch Vargas had a normally durable as hell Bradley on ***** street in round 12? Speaking of Vargas.........

    I stand by what I said, Vargas ain't that good. Most of the current top JWW's would move up and beat him.

    True but it was stylistic. A puncher that throws alot of punches will always look sensational against someone who doesn't throw. He simply drowned Broner which the other 2 didn't do.
     
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  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You'll get no disagreement from me, completely agree.
     
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  6. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Slow one-legged Jose Benavidez was timing and ripping Bud w/ counters. Bud would go into survival mode once he tasted Pac's power and speed... Just like IV-addicted Floyd did.

    But yeah, it could happen if Pac got old and completely shot overnight. Dude is 40.

    :deal:
     
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  7. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    1.Floyd
    2.Khan
    3.Broner
    4.Pac
    5.Crawford
     
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  8. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

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    Dude, stop erasing Pac's age and KO loss. It's a faded and semi-shot Pac doing these things to these guys.

    And Vargas has a nuclear right hand that he's able to uncork from time to time and land. He smashed Bradley w/ that one.
     
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  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am completely done :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
     
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  10. The Ogdoad

    The Ogdoad Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Spence
    Crawford
    Pacquiao
    Thurman
    Porter
     
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  11. POTUS

    POTUS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1.Crawford
    2.Thurman

    3.Pacquiao
    4.Garcia
    5.Porter
     
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  12. TheMotorCityCobra

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    1. Spence
    2. Crawford
    3. Pac
    4. Thurman
    5. DSG....(or Porter, Ugas)
     
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