Who beat better competition Wlad or Vitali?

..... and their three fights were absolute wars !

 

Sorry when Byrd beat VK it was NO FLUKE, when you decide to quit Or forfeit you lose it's that simple..

When Duran quit against Leonard i don't recall folks calling that a fluke, he lost because he didn't want to fight anymore period, same with VK against Byrd..

And that amateur coach who said Vitali was made of iron and Wlad clay , got it Backwards, VK took off 04-08 because of injuries, Wlad has been consistent year after year for his entire career..

Judging by their careers, and their competition Wlad is clearly the better of the 2..

I find it mind boggiling how universum called VK the betetr fighter when Wlad clearly beat the better competition, and DIDN'T take 4 long years off:huh

 

I'm assuming that you've made this thread due to the comments in your other thread regarding Vital's comeback?

But seriously, what was the point?

As I've already noted, Wlad has fought TWENTY more fights than Vitali has.

Twenty fights is a huge amount.

So of course Wlad has fought better competition overall.

But with twenty fights more, what would you expect?

 

Vitali was unlucky that he didn't have the longevity of Wlad.

But my money would definitely have been on Vitali had they not been brothers and they'd have fought each other.

 

That's exactly how I see it.


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Great post!


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1. How can you compare Vitali quitting to Duran quitting? How were they the same?

2. Vitali's coach was obviously referring to their in ring abilities.

3. What exactly do you find mind boggling about people thinking Vitali was better? Why is Wlad clearly the better of the two? The only thing that's clear, is that Wlad has the better stats due to fighting 20 more fights.

 

How were Duran and Vitali quitting any different?? Except one guy had according to his words stomach cramps, the other guy a hurt shoulder, probably caused by swinging at too much air, because his opponent was a very difficult target..

Vitali must have a low tolerance for pain, hell Ali fought Norton in 73. With a busted jaw.

I guess folks on this site have a hard time figuring out that when you quit, it means you lose period, whatever the reason, its a forfeit, just like in baseball or any other sport..

Why is Wlad clearly the better of the 2? Well when 2 guy's never have or never will fight each other what else do you have to go on besides the level of competition they have both faced??? Clue me in I would live to know??

20 fights is a lot of fights, I guess it clearly shows who had the longevity, and was born to be the so called fighter of the 2..

 

1. Naturally.. Because he didn't train both of them. He only trained wlad and trainers seldom build up other fighters at the expense of their own.

2. Universum got wlad to a world title and basically to the #2 spot behind Lewis.. Steward merely polished up an otherwise nearly finished product. It's not like he took a journeyman who couldn't fight for squat and turned him into a superstar. What he did with wlad was teach him to Better use his reach and not get careless against lesser opponents.. But universum had already basically created the foundation without which wlad and steward never would have met...

 

Wlad, this isn't even close.

 

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I would take a 2010 prime Wlad with Steward in his corner, over a prime 2004 Vitali with that Fritz dude any day of the week 2x on Sunday, no doubt..

He was just more refined, and durable better all around boxer and athlete..