Who beat Sullivan Barrera more impressively?

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  1. bowlingkid09

    bowlingkid09 Member Full Member

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    Why does that shock you? Bivol has above average power; he falls slightly short of being a big puncher. Slava, Smith Jr., and Valera pack bricks in their gloves and they still could not put away Barrera. Barrera does not have an iron chin but he recovers very well. If anything, that is a credit to Bivol's timing and punch placement which makes his punch effective despite not having the sheer power of Kovalev or Beterbiev. Even the Nail has a little more power than Bivol.
     
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  2. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's all relative. Uzcategui beat Andre Dirrell in a more dominant fashion than Froch. Does that mean Uzcat is better than Froch? We just have to see when Bivol fights Kovalev which is the next level up.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    To be honest, it doesn't shock me, I've said it before, I knew his power wasn't that impressive, it was hyperbole for dramatic effect. What shocks me is the over the top reactions people are having him to beating Sullivan Barrera.
     
  4. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I think that in certain cases relativity is relevant.
     
  5. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Do you think Ward would have won by stoppage against Barrera had he utilized the 'sack punch?'.
     
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  6. 3rdegree

    3rdegree Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A knockdown against a clearly off-balance and ultimately unhurt Sullivan is more hocus-pocus than impressive.
     
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  7. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Bivol was far more impressive.

    Bivol boxed within the rules, and used his speed and boxing skills to defeat Barrera. Ward fouled (held, wrestled, clutched, and low-blowed) his way to an unimpressive win.
     
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  8. PaulButlersMum

    PaulButlersMum COME ON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!! banned Full Member

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    bu bu bu Borderline doe!
     
  9. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    He did nail Barrera in the stones several times. But for the worst low blow, the referee was more honest than the ref in the second Kovalev fight. He gave Sullivan time to recover and deducted a point from Ward.
     
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  10. Pretty Boy Floyd

    Pretty Boy Floyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You also have to take into account the intentions going into each fight, Ward would have used to the fight more so to shake of rust and get rounds in while taking little risk not wanting to pick up any cuts or injury's etc knowing the kovalev fight was looming.

    Bivol would have gone into this fight being the young up and coming guy wanting to impress and make a statement knowing full well that ward comparisons would be made afterwards.

    Also in bivols defense, hes still not even peaked him self i am sure in a couple of years times he too would be more impressive than his currently is right now.
     
  11. 3rdegree

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    I believe you've summed it up nicely.
     
  12. 3rdegree

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    Ward won ugly Bivol won impressively.
     
  13. Pretty Boy Floyd

    Pretty Boy Floyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Ward did he beat him first and damn near shut him out. With that said it was a good performance by Bivol to who proved me wrong.
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    This thread needs some Serge.

    The correct answer is Bivol and it's not even close :lol:
     
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