Who beats a prime Roy Jones head to Head under 190lb?

Lamar Parks!!

 

:deal


And Bernard shamefully priced himself out of the rematch for years.

 

I'm not trying to back Roy up with a sparkling resume, especially at those weights.
I just think if you'd have grabbed Tunney (for example) at his peak and Jones likewise and given them 3-4 months to train for each other, Jones would prove superior.......although we'd have to give Gene some of that RJJ 'special juice' during the camp to make it fair ha ha

 

:yep

 

Nobody in the history of the sport from 190 down beats a prime Roy Jones. Most would be to slow and after they get hit with blazing, fast powerful combinations reality will set in. Roy knocks Ray Robinson out at 160 and Hagler. He would hit them clean and often from the opening bell.

Super Middleweight Roy Jones can't be touched.

 

Parks was a far better middleweight than Hopkins at the time.

 

1. We're talking about Holyfield in 1998. That was after he'd fought Tyson, and before he'd fought Lennox. That would have been a huge fight and an extremely dangerous one. Evander's attorney Jim Thomas, states in his autobiography that Roy and his advisor Greg Fritz, arranged a meeting in Atlanta where they all had dinner to discuss a potential fight. Thomas says that Evander respectively turned down the idea of a fight, as at the time, he thought he was in a no win situation. Are you telling me that a fight against a faded Nunn, would have been more dangerous than fighting Evander in 1998?

2. Lamar Parks lost to Reggie Johnson and didn't have any noteworthy wins. His last fight was in 1993. His scheduled fight against Gerald never happened because of his illness. He then never fought again. Yet you continuously imply that Roy avoided him and didn't push for a fight etc. Again, Roy had done nothing until he'd beaten Hopkins in 1993, and then he moved up to face James Toney who was considered one of the best fighters in the world. So how can you criticise a guy for not fighting Parks (who without being disrespectful, hadn't done anything) when he fought Toney instead? You'd never have been satisfied. You'd always have thrown names around of guys he didn't fight. Just last month, you bizarrely criticised him for not fighting Charles Brewer. It's madness.

3. A fight between Gerald may have been on the horizon at SMW, had the Benn tragedy not occured. There's no real evidence that points to Roy ducking him at MW.

 

I asked you if Roch himself was as good as Tarver, or better than.

I'm sure that dropping back from HW at almost 35 to fight Tarver, would have been a bigger challenge than him fighting Roch at 29.

 

:good

 

He may have been. And I certainly don't want to criticise him. But it's ridiculous to imply that Roy ducked him. You basically think that Roy ducked every fighter that he never fought. If Roy had've knocked out Parks in ten seconds, I'm sure you'd just have replaced Parks's name with someone else.

It was absolutely crazy of you to criticise Roy for not wanting to fight Charles Brewer. If you followed their career paths, it was just a ridiculous thing to say.

 

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

Vander in '98 wouldn't of laid a glove on Roy Jones, literally. '88 version maybe.

Nunn would've beaten Jones. As would Parks in '92 when the fight was talked up. Jones knows this. Reggie Johnson would've beaten Jones in '92 (when it was talked up a lot), like he beat his ass all over the ring in sparring, slicker than a ****ing greaseball back then (ask a prime condition Toney, who Reggie clearly beat).

 

Literally?

A faded Nunn at 175, who'd been fighting B class opposition before losing to Roch, or a 220 pound Evander coming off of the Tyson win?

And now Parks, Reggie and Nunn would definitely have beaten Roy, and he knew it?

Okay.

 

Yes. If he could've won these toughest challenges, he would've took them on. Nunn needed a challenge to train like he used to and bring the old Nunn back. He looked much better against Guthrie than a shot Reggie had.

 

Hang on a minute.

This thread was started solely because on another thread I stated I would back the prime LIGHT HEAVY Jones ( who weighed one hell of a lot nearer 190 than 175 by fight time ) to stop everyone Marciano EVER stopped AT THE TIME HE FOUGHT THEM, and in quicker time.

Loudon will tell you I have less than no time for Jones Jr, whom I generally refer to as Roid. But there is no denying at his peak at 175 ( which again was nearer 190 by fight time ) the guy possessed incredible, speed, athleticism, and reflexes.

No one could ever convince me that that Jones could not batter and humiliate a 37 year old Joe Louis, a 39 year old Archie Moore, a 36, and 37 year old Joe Walcott, and a well worn 34 year old Ezzard Charles.

Quite simply NONE of those men AT THAT TIME could have laid a glove on Jones, and he would have punched them for fun.

What he did or didn't do at 60, or 68, has absolutely NOTHING to do with this thread.