Who beats a prime Roy Jones Jr ?

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  1. Jester

    Jester Active Member Full Member

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    I'm probably in the minority here, but I think Archie Moore has a very good chance of beating Jones, possibly even knocking him out.
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Kelly Pavlik?

    Carl Froch?

    :patsch

    :lol:
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Simply all 1 had 2 do was land 1 punch.
    Lou DelValle was not a puncher, but then Glen Johnson was never considered a puncher before Jones.

    Taylor hurt & decked Froch & Pavlik . What happens if he landed on Jones? It was no coincidence, Taylor could punch.

    Pavlik could punch, take a punch and was lefty and taller.
    Yall masta 4got
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Look, anyone will go if they're caught clean.

    That applies to pretty much anyone.

    But the chances of those guys landing on a peak version of Roy, would have been slim at best.

    They would had to have been lottery punches.

    Fights against Taylor, Froch and Pavlik would NEVER have been 'pick em' fights.

    My definition of a 'pick em' fight, is an even, 50/50 fight.

    After all, that's what 'pick em' means, right?

    So it was a gross exaggeration on your part.

    Froch and Pavlik would have been a walk in the park for Roy.
     
  5. 2piece

    2piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You know why he never faced another great fighter? BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE EXPOSED HIM. Hopkins and Toney were not great fighters yet either.
     
  6. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney had been a champ. since 91. He was at his peak. He was never a great fighter after Jones Beat him. Hopkins and Jones had about the same amount of professional experience when they fought so it was a great win. Yes, Hopkins improved after their fight, but so did Jones. I would argue that the Hopkins and Toney he did beat were better than almost all the champions he did not fight. McClellan may be an exception. Exactly what "great" fighter would have exposed Jones.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thanks for sharing your great wisdom.

    :lol:
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's completely clueless mate.


    Hopkins was 28, and Roy was 24 with a fractured hand.

    After Roy beat him, he didn't lose for another 12 years.


    Toney wasn't a great fighter?

    That's funny, I thought he'd beaten Nunn, Reggie, McCallum, Barkley and Littles?


    :lol:
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    fixed

    Here is a calculation for you:
    Suppose in each 1 of rds 1-8 they had a 4% chance of landing on Roy. Over 8 rds (not 12) it accumulates to something between 30% and 31% chance. This is just over 8 rds and in just 1 fight.
    Real men usually had series of fights if they lived long enough.
    31% is not what most consider slim chance.




    Roy could have been favored due to hype which would make the odds even better and a fantastic opportunity.

    Pavlik might be more dangerous than Froch for Roy, just because Froch will always be remember as an aged version of himself because that was what available.
    They were a walk in the park for Jermain Taylor too, until things happened.
     
  10. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    And I believe RJJ's right hand was injured for the first Hopkins fight as well. Benn, Eubank, Nunn, all the others at the time were really a level below Roy.

    I still would've loved to see Jones face Dariusz even though he wins a UD.
     
  11. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At 160: Hagler, Monzon, Briscoe, possibly Robinson.

    At 175: Spinks, Saad Muhammad, Marvin Johnson, Harold Johnson, Foster.Possibly Moore, and definitely Charles.
     
  12. BEATDOWNZ

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    Eubank gets TKO'ed.

    Too stationary and a low punch-output spells danger against Roy.

    Monzon, Hagler, G-Man, Benn, Nunn & Spinks have fantastic chances to beat Roy.
     
  13. superconan

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    Weight would have played an issue, since prime Jones is probably going to fight between 168 and 172.
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You're an entertainer Frank.

    Roy would have beaten them with ease, then you'd have been on here the next day, downplaying the wins, and listing guys who Roy should have fought instead.
     
  15. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he did, I would not have tried to downplay his wins unless there was a justification for it.