Who Beats Bernard at 160 lbs in Boxing History

No your not placing him high at all. I do feel some are greater all time then Hop (Hagler, Monzon), but head to head, because the type of fighter he is, he stacks up with ANY of them.

Of course there are a few (actually a hell of alot more than a few) people on here that hate Hop, so....your definately gonna get flamed for this.

 

Roy Jones Jr who beats just about anyone at 160

Hagler I think would beat him 7/10.

Monzon has a shot on a good night.


Thats probably it. imo

 

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I think Robinson could outwork him, but it could go the other way there, too.

Lamotta might have the best chance. Hopkins was always at his best if you gave him the space he liked to work (well, who doesn't really). Realistically, Hopkins was at his best when he was allowed to dictate the pace. A Lamotta-type wouldn't have let this happen.

 

I WOULD PICK THESE GUYS OVER BERNARD
Roy Jones, Jr.
Marvin Hagler
Harry Greb
Carlos Monzon

THESE GUYS WOULD HAVE A SHOT (BUT I WOULDN'T FAVOR THEM)
Jake LaMotta
Stanley Ketchel
Marcel Cerdan
James Toney
Michael Nunn

 

Carlos Monson wouldn't have stood a chance

 

you wouldnt last 5 minutes with BSG. He would eat you alive.

 

Roy Jones has beaten him
Jermain Taylor has beaten him
SRR
Marvin Hagler
SRL
A "prime" Michael Nunn
Charlie Burley

 

Anyone who fights the first 6 rounds of a fight, because Bernard Hopkins sure as hell doesn't. Throwing 15 punches per round won't beat any top 20 fighter in history ever.

 

Rjj

 

Bernard Hopkins is a perplexing boxer for a number of reasons. One is that Bernard Hopkins did not have a traditional "prime" like most fighters have. When he was at his physical prime in his mid twenties he was a lion in the ring. He had a monster right hand and great work rate. But he did not necesarily have the polished skills or defense that Hopkins had. This is why RJJ was able to get a relatively comfortable win over Bernard.

Bernard developed skills and defense as his career progressed. He became one of the more crafty and skillful middleweights of all time. But the fact remains that these to areas did not overlap. When he had the power the workrate and the mentality to fight he did not have the skills and defense that made him great.

So it is hard to rank him in a head to head sense against other great fighters.

 

Good call. Hopkins is good,but not THAT good!! You can also add Hearns to that list. Hopkins is on the same level as La Motta,Turpin,Fullmer.

I still find it difficult to believe that some people think Hopkins would have beaten Hagler. The idea is simply ludicrous.