Who Beats Bernard at 160 lbs in Boxing History

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thinking more about it, SRL IMO would have had an easy time with Hopkins. Hopkins had trouble with ODLH and yes he did win and yes he did stop ODLH but prior to that, he was getting outboxed. SRL is faster and more skilled than DLH or Taylor so I see him outboxing Hopkins and I seriously doubt Hopkins stops SRL.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Monzon, Burley and Greb are all definites, IMO.

    Hagler, Moore, Charles and Holman Williams would all see him in close ones, though i'd pick Hopkins.

    I think Sugar Ray would beat him too, but it would be an awkward night for Leonard.
     
  3. BoppaZoo

    BoppaZoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah good call but i think for ome reason B-Hop in both fights struggled to be himself because that is what Jermaine does is make poor fights.

    i agree that B-Hop won one of those fights but the fact remains that Taylor did beat him and its not like Hopkins had lost anything at the time. i mean he still schooled Tarver.

    Thats how i feel i think B-Hop is a all time great at 160 but there are a few fighters out there that could beat him and they are my picks.
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Score the fight and you'll see during the time of the stoppage, Hopkins was ahead. Once Hopkins turned up the pressure, De La Hoya had no chance.
     
  5. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Ummmm, no he wasnt...Hopkins was up BIG on 2 of the 3 judges cards...very big actually.

    :huh
     
  6. deram

    deram Active Member Full Member

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    I would not pick Hopkins over ANY of the names you mention. Hopkins got beaten fair and square when there was a good boxer at MW. Since then there has not really been high quality boxers in MW for his reign. His "best" wins are over smaller guys plus a shot guy coming directly from a Rocky movie.

    I think Hopkins is good, but often seriously overrated.
     
  7. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How many guys with genuine speed did bernard beat?
    How do you folks think hearns,hagler,robinson,monzon,ray leonard or even michael nunn would do against jermaine taylor in two consecutive fights?
     
  8. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was still pretty close and considering, well IMO anyways ODLH is not anywhere the league of SRL in terms of boxing skills and speed I just think SRL would have outboxed him much easier. I also dont see Hopkins outmuscling him and KO'n him with a bodyshot. Even at 160, SRL still had very fast feet and fast combinations.
     
  9. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Leonard was great, but I just think at middleweight, Hopkins height, size, natural strength advantages, and his own slickness would get him a decision victory. I think he would try and make it a rough, physical fight, but Leonard was great and he could pull it off, so it's a hard fight to predict.
     
  10. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roy Jones Junior

    Nigel Benn

    Chris Eubank
     
  11. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Lots of people - and a few average guys already have.
     
  12. Thread Stealer

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    Toney was too inconsistent @ 160. Even on his on-nights @ 160, he was still improving as a fighter and how many times did he really look "awesome" there? The first McCallum fight, which was still a pretty close fight? Glenn Wolfe?
     
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  14. Thread Stealer

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    Roy & B-Hop were still relatively green in 1993, but even the Hopkins over the later years I make a slight underdog against RJJ @ 160. Roy's speed, power, and unorthodox style would always greatly trouble B-Hop.

    Hopkins-Hagler is close to a pick-em. Both very skilled technicians, who could box and brawl. I think Hagler was more proven in terms of brawling and being able to take big shots from big hitters (although Hopkins took some good shots from Echols as well). Hopkins is a little slicker and has such a great record against lefties. I might make Hopkins the slight favorite over Marvin.

    Monzon is another tough matchup. I've seen some of Monzon, I ought to watch some more. He's an ugly guy to watch so I don't exactly care all that much to order more fights. Anyway, from what I've seen that's another pick-em.

    The Ray Robinson of 160, I can easily see a case where Hopkins wins, then Ray wins the rematch. Especially Robinson after his failed dancing career.