Who beats Floyd at 140? Ever?

He was quicker and more powerful at 130, facing fighters closer to his natural size. Therefore, he was at his best there.

Also, about Corley, the point still remains that he couldn't stop him after throwing everything he had at him over 12 rounds. And the obvious fact that he faced noone worthy, therefore we didn't get to see him against any top comp like at other weights.

 

Oscar was much faster and more powerful, and overall much better, than he is now. He gave Floyd a good fight when past his prime at 154. At 140, it's probably a 50/50 fight, though not neccessarily favoring Oscar.

 

taylor took heaps of punishment in that fight...im yet 2 c pretty boy get up off the canvas or fight through a broken nose...and no im not a hater ...i dont mind floyd as a fighter...he just never had 2 show that stuff yet cause of his skills...as he gets older if he continues 2 fight we will c him slow down and this stuff might come in2 play...thats when we'll know about heart chin etc of pbf...

 

Yea, but remember Floyd was also stepping up in weight and can still make 140 pretty easily.

 

De La Hoya's jab was as good as ever at 140lbs, speed being the obvious choice. The fight with Gonzalez showed such evidence. Ive never seen De La Hoya as busy with the jab as he was in that fight, although his right hand was virtually non-existent. No stamina issues at 140lbs either. De La Hoya's stamina problems only started when he fought Trinidad. He closed the show against Molina, Gonzalez, Whitaker, and Quartey.

It would be interesting to see how Mayweather did against De La Hoya's jab at 140lbs. Trust assured, that jab was in full flow at 140lbs. Even more authority behind it, and it was being doubled and tripled.

 

Calzaghe hit Lacy with everything in the book and still couldn't stop him. What does that prove? Not much. Floyd beat the **** out of Corely. He knocked him down twice and should've been credited with two other KD's. The commisioner was beggining Corely to throw in the towel. You also have to take into consideration that this was Floyd's first fight at 140, and that Corely is a lefty.

Floyd was quicker at 130, but not as powerful. He had his share of fights at 130 where he was unloading on his opponent and couldn't stop them. Watch his fight against Rios. He hit that guy with everything and couldn't stop him. There were also other fights where the only reason he stopped his opponent was because the corner threw in the towel. Corrales could've went 12, I looked like the fights against Chavez and Gerena were stopped early as well.

 

Yea, but what about Floyd"s straight right hand and combination punching at 140? He put his punches so well together at 140.

 

JCC would pressure him to a decision, much the way Castillo nearly did(and did in many's eyes). He was getting outlanded by Taylor, who fought a COMPLETELY different style to Floyd. Taylor was getting beaten the hell up, badly, but had such heart and quick hands that he was able to outland Chavez easily to win rounds, despite taking more punishment. Floyd doesn't fight this way. Floyd fights a lot more defensively, and a lot less flashy, therefore not as capable of throwing Chavez off.

Imagine a much better version of Castillo vs Floyd. Simple as that.

 

The corners stopped those fights, there is nothing you can do about that. You also brought up Corrales. Tell me, when has Floyd ever looked so good? And against the highest ranking opponent he's ever faced as well.

 

Yeah, I briefly mentioned the Gonzalez fight. But De La Hoya's full arsenal of punches were shown when he fought Chavez. That was a total demolition job. The way he steadily came forward behind the jab, popping off lead right hands, then eventually he brought in those 3-4 punch combinations during the 4th round, a sight to behold.

De La Hoya was busier with the jab against Gonzalez, but was more fluid technically with two hands against Chavez. His right hand was thrown as a lead more regularly than it was against Gonzalez, and it was also a telling weapon when he threw combinations. De La Hoya's main weapons against Gonzalez, the left jab and hook.

He was simply more complete against Chavez when it came to variety. And I liked his movement from the torso upwards. Not as straight up and down, which he was against Gonzalez.

Two fine performances from De La Hoya. He showed different strengths in each fight.

 

It's hard to say, he fought the perfect fight against Corrales. You could say he looked better against Gatti. However, Gatti was more limited than Corrales which allowed Floyd to be more aggresive. The N'Dou fight was another virtuoso performance. You could make an argument that he was more impressive in that fight as well.

Back to the issue of the corners stopping the fight. In the case of both Corley and Corrales, both fighters were hoplessly behind and getting their asses handed to them in the 10th. Both were are well enough physically to continue. In one case, the corner decided to throw in the towel. In the other case, the corner decided to let their fighter finish the fight. Does this mean Floyd showed more power against Corrales? No, it meant that Corrales' corner was more concerned about their fighter(remember, Corrales's stepfather was the guy who threw in the towel)

 

Why not? A well past prime DLH almost beat a prime PBF.

 

man oh man. what about his uncle rodger? :nut :rofl

 

pryor...maybe whitaker also

 

I wouldn't deny that and I wasn't trying to say he proved anything definitively in the last ten seconds. I actually use logic no matter what that fruitcake Amsterdam says.