Who beats Floyd at 140? Ever?

You also fail to mention that PBF was injured for that fight. You would think that might of had something to do with it.:think

 

Wear and tear on your body comes from fighting, not just good fights. Especially with his style.

 

:deal

 

I still disagree. Floyd may not have pushed opponents off as much then as now, but he had more physical prowess and range at the smaller weights. He could fight off the back foot, obviously, but he also could come forward and crack quite a bit more than now. The Baldomir and Hoya fights showed just how much power he has lost moving up.

Mayweather may not be undersized at 147, in the same way that Pacquiao isn't really undersized at 130. Nevertheless, both men were better, more dangerous fighters at their lower weight classes. Paul Williams very well may be a natural MW in a few years, but he won't ever be as good there as he is now, at 147.

This is a tried and true belief throughout history. It's the reason nearly everyone who saw Robinson fight at 147 insists he was better there than he was at 160, although he obviously was a great MW as well. There are numerous, numerous examples, and I don't understand why you consider Floyd an exception to the rule.

 

What happens after the weigh is hardly a good indicator of the fighter's natural size/weight.

Hopkins always come to a MW fight below 160 lbs. When he fought DLH, he came in 157 lbs. Look at Hopkins now, he is no way smallish for LHW. And oh, Hopkins debuted at 190 lbs.

 

Duran (KO)
Pryor (KO)

Whittaker (50/50) UD
Tszyu (30-40% chance, by KO)

 

I think you missed the point. Chavez didn't cause anymore wear and tear on his body by bashing on cab drivers for half of his fights than Oscar did going through a normal sparring session anyways. In reality, a regular training session would cause much more wear and tear... so we can't just act like since he fought 100 times, that he has more wear and tear on his body. As I said, Oscar could have fought a string of no hopers every other day and it wouldn't mean anything... and it wouldn't put any more wear and tear on his body than working out normally.

Also, you are still overlooking the fact that Oscar was 223-5 as an amateur. So, I guess that Oscar had almost 300 fights in by the time that he fought Chavez.

 

You fell for that excuse. Castillo cracked Floyds ribs. You think a fighter is that much of a dumbass to go into a fight with broken ribs??!!
atsch

 

You are one dumb ass mother****er. For one thing JCC was old and WASHED THE **** UP BY THEN. He is styles mad that an easy fight. JCC just kept walking into his jab a sign of old age. ODH could never maintain his stamina for 9 rounds and every other fighter that he fought could not take advantage b/c they got tired as well. Floyd NEVER got tired at a 140 fight and fighting 12 hard rounds. ODH would MISS punches just like he did at 154 and that would also make him tired. You are just a dumb ass. It would be competitive but floyd has the edge.

 

I didn't miss the point. I disagreed with yours. Amateur boxing is different, since you are wearing protective gear and the object of the sport is different. Plus, DLH was fighting children as a child....Chavez was fighting adults as a child, hardly the same thing.

A boxing match is different than fighting in sparring, and it's not like Chavez didn't spar as well to go along with the extra tuneup fights to stay sharp.

It is common knowledge that Chavez was not in his prime when he fought DLH, or even close to it. He may not have been shot, though he was in the 2nd bout.

Also, DLH has taken a bit of time off in between fights since he got into his 30's. He wasn't sparring all that much in my estimation.

 

Nah dumb *****. He had a torn rotar cuff that WAS WELL DOCUMENTED BEFORE THE ****ING FIGHT> . AGAIN *****, if you listen to the corner in round 2 of which Floyd was winning easily he complained about his arm in his corner. I have never heard floyd complain about **** in the ****ing ring except maybe his hand. He struggled with Castillo INJURED...........Dumb ass. Incoherent no memory having mother****ers.

 

watch floyd mayweather soul of a champion, in the fight he shows his left shoulder hurting, in the documentary he says he hurt his right shoulder.:huh

 

its funny how toopretty's ass hurts when you talk about his **** buddy floyd.