Who beats Paul Williams between 147 and 160?

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    When I talk about Pavlik, Abraham, and Williams it's all about styles, and bad habits vs good habits.

    Abraham has only fought one "tall" fighter. That was Ikeke, and he is 6' 4". Abraham made a ton of mistakes repeatedly that a better fighter would have made him pay for. Williams does not make full use of his height and reach, but I think he does well enough to have a good chance with AA.

    One of the things about Pavlik people tend to ignore is that opponents pay dearly for mistakes and bad habits. McKart was doing a good job of staying right in Kelly's chest. He made one mistake and got sparked. Miranda can't fight off the back foot. In the first fight Taylor held his left to low and kept going straight back. Taylor got rid of those habits and made the second fight VERY competetive. BHop fought a near perfect fight. I think you can see the difference I'm trying to point out.

    Williams has habits and flaws that would play right into Kelly's greatest strengths. That doesn't mean I think Williams is a poor fighter. It just means that I think his style and his bad habits would cost hime dearly against KP.
     
  2. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    I hear you. He could win most of the fight but then still end up KO'd with one mistake. I think Paul would try to fight tall against AA thoughm just to use the height advantage.
     
  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Cotto lost to a man who throws more than 100 punches a round and keeps coming and is huge...williams throws more than Margo, keeps coming and is huge...
     
  4. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Herein lies the problem with picking this fight.

    I have all the confidence in the world that PW can outbox KP. But he does make mistakes... and KP is at is best when a fighter makes some type of fundamental mistake.

    Question is.. Will KP make him pay? Or does Paul have the chin to weather the storm after he makes a mistake... Will the mistake be early in the fight? or will it be late enough that KP could possibly not have as much power left in his punches...

    I think if PW fights 8 good, solid, fundamental, BHop type rounds, his stamina and chin will be able to carry him through just in case he slips up once or twice in the later rounds...

    Hard to tell. This is a better fight than some people think.
     
  5. jim22uk

    jim22uk Active Member Full Member

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    margarito has a chance in a rematch pavlik abraham winky
     
  6. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    Its so hard to get a fighter to event fight this guy
     
  7. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Paul had to get his shot the old fashion way, he became the mandotory, so if anything your little arguement "Paul had to chase Margarito down" Margarito was looking for bigger and better things in a fight with Cotto at the time, nobody gave a damn about Paul Williams 99.9% of this board didnt know **** about Williams other than he was some tall Welter Weight who claimed to have gotten the better of Tony in sparring.

    and looking at the way the fight turned out, I highley doubt he got the better of Tony in sparring, especially when you consider a guy like Tony who you all say has "ZERO DEFENSE" somehow limited Paul to just over 200 shots landed, while Paul threw more than 1000 shots that night, in other words either Tony doesnt have a defense like you say, or Paul just dont have a clue how to land consitantly.

    either way Margarito IMO will beat Paul in a rematch, their first fight was close, Tony gave away too many rounds if he starts earlier Paul fades earlier, Paul showed no signs of slowing down until Tony stepped it up, that will be the key in the rematch.
     
  8. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    Agreed! Before the PW vs AM fight, not many ppl at all even knew of PW. Yes AM's defense is very weak, but PW's punch accuracy isn't that excellent either because instead of focusing on landing, he'd rather just throw 5 while he's confident at least 1 will land. Now as far as the sparring, PW claims AM's camp sent him home cause he was hurting AM. Well, i didnt see AM hurt in the real fight. So that tells me 2 things, sparring isn't the same thing as fighting and AM must have gotten better from the time of he & PW sparring til the time of he & PW actually fighting.
     
  9. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    The guys at 160 have the best chance. Only guy below 160 that I'd give a chance is Clottye
     
  10. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Paul Williams is getting KO'd against any solid 160lb + fighter.
     
  11. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    Only guys that can possibly KO him are AA & KP
     
  12. StreetsOfGold

    StreetsOfGold Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really ? hows that then you have seen his beard at 160lb ?
     
  13. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    Yes, I have, and I'm not talking about a Kolle fight!

    And who else in the 160 division is punching as hard as AA or KP?
     
  14. D.Will

    D.Will Active Member Full Member

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    umm have u actually watched williams fight?
     
  15. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    like Kolle ha?