Who beats Roy Jones at these weights?

Middleweight-Hagler, Greb, Monzon, Robinson,Graziano
Light Heavyweight-Spinks, Foster, Lewis, Conn
Super Middleweight,-probably no one.

 

Im taking Hearns at anyweight against this hype job,Hagler,SRL,Robinson,Nunn at MW,Spinks,Moore,Foster,Conn,Qwai,Moorer,maybe Saad Muhamed at LH,no way can Monzon beat him he's even more overrated than Jones is.

 

What's your issue with John Henry Lewis? He certainly proved himself to be a great fighter. More so than Jones. John Henry Lewis is one of the best technical boxers of all time, and could hit too. He also fought the best of his era, unlike Jones did(DM)

 

Foster was a bit past his prime when he fought Finnegan. He was nearing the end of the road. Look at what Foster did a decade earlier to top men like Allen Thomas, Eddie Cotton, Henry Hank, Andres Selpha, and Dick Tiger. Foster has freakish physical tools...Jones never fought a 6'3 long armed light-heavyweight with an ATG left jab, and devastating two fisted power like Foster. NEVER.

O rly? so all those devastating one punch knockouts foster scored, they were just shot in the dark "flukes"?

Btw,

what puncher did Roy Jones ever beat at 175lb?

 

It's always amusing when ignorant people go on rants that are so extreme on one end of the spectrum it makes people physically ill reading it.

How many fighters have you seen pegged as ATG's that an argument can not even be made for them being great? It's not a word that's thrown around on here lightly.

But carry on, convinced one.

 

No he wasn't. He was only a few months removed from arguably his best performance against Villa.

I would, if the film were available of many of these fights. The film that is available shows a degree of improvement in Foster's game up to the Villa fight in my view. If anything, the greener Foster who appeared never to have heard the word "jab" before might have lost to Finnegan.

And Foster has never beaten anybody with the general class of Jones.

Well, insofar as they arose often through him punching with opponents (e.g. Tiger) rather than skilfully timing or countering them.

Who cares?

 

Not sure about this bit.

 

Tarver and Harding were 6'3, Woods 6'2. Tarver/Halls/Toney were punchers, not in the degree Foster is but would Foster even land?

For some reason there is always an assumption with Jones that he's the only 1 who can be stopped, when he has shown devastating power himself, and he nearly always beats his opponent to the punch to land his biggest punches. Jones can stop Foster

 

Jones would stop Foster.

 

You mean this guy?

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Thanks for that El Buija. itrymariti must have been smoking something nice when he made that comment about a young foster not knowing how to use his jab. Checkout Fosters jab in that video, one of the best of all time. Jones wouldn't stop it.

Foster was 34 years of age when he fought Finnegan. He would not look good against Fourrie and Ahumada is his subsequent fights. Are you claiming that at 34 years old, Foster was still in his prime thus making him a late bloomer? Just say it if you think it's true. I am of the opinion that there have been fighters in history who were late bloomers and still in their primes at 34 years old. I don't think Bob Foster was one of them. Bob Fosters best work was when he was cleaning out those top light-heavyweights of the mid 1960s.

Maybe a slight degree of improvement due to increased experience...but in terms of reflexes, speed, timing? He was losing them.

It's a big piece of the puzzle. Jones seemed to either avoid punchers at both 168lb and 175lb, and the one tall long armed puncher he did fight(tarver), he got knocked out cold.

Tarver had no trouble landing in all of their fights. Foster would not either.

Toney was not a 175lb puncher

If you have to list Halls, then it shows Roy Jones lack of big victories over punchers

Jones lost the trilogy to Tarver

 

Still, tool for tool, Jones' straight right is better than anything Foster has. Not that it would be relevant when considering the vast edges in Jones for skill, timing, speed and use of feet. Foster would be last to the punch without fail.

Yes, although I also thought he looked good as early as the Terrell fight where he actually displayed some skills, and in the footage Bujia just posted. He had a long prime, I would say. Certainly, him being past-prime is not an excuse for an ATG having massive trouble out-boxing Finnegan.

Well, he was always going to look good against lesser (read: awful) opposition.

He never used them anyway, apart from vs. Terrell where he didn't have the size edge.

Who did he "avoid"?

And you complained to me about using fights where Foster was past it? You might as well bring up the second Hazelton fight.

What punchers did Bob Foster have "big victories" over? What slicksters did Bob Foster have "big victories" over? What pressure fighters did Bob Foster have "big victories" over?

What fighters did Bob Foster have "big victories" over?! For a possibly great LHW, Jones record is not great. Foster's is even worse.

 

I tend to think it was the Ali fight that finished Foster.He showed clear decline after that, but not anything too much prior to it imo.

 

1. I love the way you use Fosters age of 34 as an excuse and then quote Jones losses at the same or more elderly age against him
Double standards much?

2. Who did he avoid? You constantly bring this up, get proven wrong. DM, Eubank, Collins, Rochiagani were all offered contracts with Jones at various stages, all turned them down, some priced themself out. He didn't sign to fight Benn, but he would effectively sign his career over to Don King who ****ed over his buddy McClellan. But Jones wanted the Benn fight if you read this:

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224734&highlight=benn

Obviously you won't let facts get in the way of making the same claims yet again

3. Jones was 34, 35, 37 - prime Jones was rarely hit by Elites - Tarver is also a southpaw and hence a very different style

4. Toney's power carried all the way up to HW and he's greater than Foster

5. It isn't 1 of his top victory's but he was a puncher and Hall went onto get robbed against DM, he was stopped in a fight he was clearly winning

 

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