Who beats who ? In Your Opinion?

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  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    pick the fights you feel that are relevant..

    add your own as well

    upcoming & potential...

    cotto>oscar
    cotto>margarito
    cotto>williams
    williams>margarito

    pavlik>hopkins
    pavlik>calzaghe
    winky>pavlik

    paqiou>hatton
    oscar>hatton
    maliganagi>hatton

    clottey>zab


    thats all that comes to my mind for now
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Cotto > DLH - UD
    Cotto > Williams - KO
    Margarito > Cotto - UD
    Williams > Margarito - SD

    Calzaghe > Pavlik - UD (clear)
    Hopkins > Pavlik - SD
    Pavlik > Wright - UD (close)

    Hatton > Paulie - KO
    Hatton > Pac - KO (brutal - both fighters down)
    DLH > Hatton - KO (entertaining, Hatton in front on cards but size tells)

    To the author - if you really think Paulie will beat Hatton, you need to go and watch some boxing. Paulie was given a gift in the rematch against N'Dou, who is basically a clone of Hatton but 30% less skilled in all departments.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    cotto>oscar - close one, I'd favor Oscar though
    cotto>margarito - Cotto is gonna beat him silly
    cotto>williams - Cotto by TKO
    williams>margarito - Margarito would take the rematch

    pavlik>hopkins - Pavlik by TKO
    pavlik>calzaghe - Pavlik by KO
    winky>pavlik - close....I'm now favoring Pavlik due to Wrights inactivity and seemingly "$ only" motivation

    paqiou>hatton - Hatton stoppage
    oscar>hatton - Oscar brutal KO
    maliganagi>hatton - Hatton hugs his way to an ugly UD

    clottey>zab - Zab by UD
     
  4. J-Dog

    J-Dog Active Member Full Member

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    Cotto
    Cotto
    Cotto
    Williams

    Pavlik
    Calzaghe
    Pavlik

    Hatton
    Oscar
    Hatton

    Zab (if he turns up plus the law of averages and all that)

    I would put my money on those calls player......
     
  5. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    haha hatton probably will win..

    mal is just entertaining to me so id hope for his victory
     
  6. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    *Cotto UD or late rounds stoppage DLH
    *Cotto UD Margarito (But Margarito also has the potential to stop Cotto)
    *Williams TKO late rounds Cotto (If Cotto shows wear against Margarito and has a hard time with the Pace Margarito sets, then that will make it tough against someone like Williams)
    *Williams UD Margarito

    *Pavlik UD Hopkins
    *Pavlik TKO Calzaghe
    *Pavlik UD Wright ... even though I think that Wright can also beat Pavlik by UD

    *Pacquiao TKO Hatton
    *Oscar TKO Hatton
    *Hatton TKO Malignaggi

    *Clottey UD Judah
     
  7. AbbasKhan6428

    AbbasKhan6428 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amir khan TKO7 Nate cambell

    Malignalli beat Hatton? noway!!!! the greatest boxer of my era beats Hatton and now every1 can apparently win a UD against him??? wtf!
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I don't see how Pavlik would KO Calzaghe.

    Joe tends to toy with come forward fighters, as he did with Kessler from 5-11 (inclusive) when he doesn't get dragged into a meeting of two sherman tanks - Pavlik is great at what he does, but doesn't have the ring savvy to cope with Joe (as Hopkins did) and I see nothing but a clear UD, 117-111 or 118-110 even.
     
  9. J-Dog

    J-Dog Active Member Full Member

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    BB that call of 117-111 is just about spot on, depends if Kelly has plans B's and C's which we just dont know about him yet.....
     
  10. CJLightweight

    CJLightweight Lightweight Kingpin Full Member

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    cotto-oscar>close UD for cotto
    cotto-margarito>close UD for cotto
    cotto-williams>cotto by TKO
    williams-margarito>williams UD

    pavlik-hopkins>pavlik by TKO
    pavlik-calzaghe>pavlik by TKO
    winky-pavlik>close UD for pavlik

    pacquiao-hatton> go with the bigger hatton, but if pac is successful i say toss up

    oscar-hatton> oscar TKO
    malignaggi-hatton>hatton close UD

    clottey-zab>clottey by UD
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think Calzaghe is beatable, very much so.

    BUT

    1. Do not try and out work him - it ain't happening
    2. Do not try and win against him on the inside - Joe is very underrated in this area.
    3. No wild bombs - unless in last round and losing!

    Basically - you need to switch from toe to toe, inside and outside fighting, backed up by a pawing left jab and a straight right, which Calzaghe eats all day and night. If you stick to the same tactics all the time (as Pavlik generally does - albeit excellently) you have no chance. Calzaghe has a freakish ability to determine what his opponent is trying to do and work out a way to counter - perhaps his best attribute.

    For me, the guy with the ideal style to beat Calzaghe (P4P obviously) is Kostya Tszyu.

    Tszyu had a fair workrate, but not excessive, and had the punches that Calzaghe doesn't like to take. With this in mind, Tszyu was never one to go chasing a fighter, and was quite happy to sit back and take a few shots waiting for the chance to unleash. With Tszyu having a decent chin, and Calzaghe being less than stellar at chasing an opponent down, this is how I reach the outcome!
     
  12. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Cotto Vs. De La Hoya: De La Hoya by UD.
    Cotto Vs. Margarito: Margarito by TKO. 7th RD.
    Cotto Vs. Williams: Cotto by UD
    Williams Vs. Margarito II: Williams by UD

    Pavlik Vs. Hopkins: Pavlik by UD
    Pavlik Vs. Calzaghe: Calzaghe by UD
    Wright Vs. Pavlik: Pavlik by UD

    Pacquiao Vs. Hatton: Hatton by TKO 10th RD. (Cuts)
    Hatton Vs. De La Hoya: De La Hoya TKO 11th RD. (Cuts)
    Maliganagi Vs. Hatton: Hatton by UD

    Clottey Vs. Judah: Clottey by K.O. 5th Rd.

    These fights are a perfect example of the aged old saying...
    "Styles make Fight's"
     
  13. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    dont forget to add your own as well
     
  14. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I don't think the DLH fight would last as long as 11 - Oscar is simply too big. But then again, both have the signature left hook - it is the slashing right that gives Hatton nightmares (see Magee, Collazo & Mayweather).

    Either way, there would be a 2 on Hatton's record!

    He would throw Paulie around the ring like a rag doll on way to a brutal KO, and would get off the canvas to beat Manny.
     
  15. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Here is a couple other's just for fun (IMO)

    Mayweather Jr. Vs. Cotto: Mayweather Jr. by UD
    Mayweather Jr. Vs. Margarito: Mayweather Jr. by UD
    Mayweather Jr. Vs. Williams: Mayweather Jr. by UD
    Mayweather Jr. Vs. Pacquiao: Mayweather Jr. by K.O. 5th Rd.
    Mayweather Jr. Vs. Hatton II: Mayweather Jr. by UD
    Mayweather Jr. Vs. De La Hoya II: Mayweather Jr. by UD

    This is the reason I don't understand Mayweather Jr.'s logic to retire.
    I can honestly project him winning against all these guy's rather easy.
    The only peep's with a legit shot at beating him would be Oscar & Miguel.
    Unless Margarito hit's a Grandslam Homerun, or Williams GIANTism as a WW works in his advantage against the smaller Mayweather Jr?