Who believe we need weight divisions ?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Why bother with them ?

    Why not simply let the best fight the best ?
     
  2. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    if the fight gets sanctioned i don't think there is anything stopping it from happening...weight classes or not. whether it doesnt happen for other reasons or b/c of camps not coming to terms is one thing, but as long as it the fight gets sanctioned it could technically happen i would think
     
  3. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch:patsch

    Tell you what. Just stick with the heavyweights. I recommend Butterbean.
     
  4. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Well, if they're good enough there's no reason why not.
    Greb, Langford, Fitzsimmons, Conn, Robinson, Walker etc. all competed well fighting against men who were a division or two above.

    But there's no reason why we cant have weight divisions though, just like they had in the days those men were fighting. Maybe we should have a few less weight divisions but I believe we should have some. Of course.
     
  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    You are the shittest thread starter.

    Ever. Bet your 'filmmaking' is f'n atrocious.
     
  6. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Being serious. There is an old saying, a good biggun will always beat a good littlun. This isn't always the case but it would be when you start putting 28 pounds between them or more. A bigger problem could be when you start putting fellas together who aren't the best and haven't got the ring smarts or defensive abilities of the better fighters. The results could be disastrous, specially long term. I think safety of the fighters has got to be taken into consideration here.
     
  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So, you want to see Wlad Klitschko getting it on with Ivan Caleron then? Just picture it and you will know how ridiculous your statement is.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    Traditionally, heavyweight is supposed to be the open division anyway. If you're good enough and man enough you can come join in, big or small.

    And all the divisions are supposed to be open to EVERYONE UNDER A CERTAIN WEIGHT. There are supposed to be maximum weight stipulations but there aren't supposed to be minimum weight stipulations. Hence, henry armstrong fighting for a middleweight title at 142, Sugar Ray fighting for the light-heavyweight weighing 157, and Billy Conn fighting for the heavyweight at 174 (or 169, depending who you believe).
     
  9. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Under the weight stipulation is a good point. So in reality it it is open to an extent.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    Well, I dont know the actual regulations nowadays but it should be like that.
    But these days fighters are a bit better informed in how to put on good weight (drugs maybe too) so when they do move up they always manage to move up to over the division below. Although, I do see a trend of championship or big fights beginning to be made at "in-between" "catchweight" marks, which i dont think is a good thing for championships.
     
  11. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: - do you have a substance abuse problem?

    Only joking He Grant - I love the way you word things :lol::lol:

    Think I know where you're coming from - but when you're talking middleweights fighting heavyweights and stuff I think you have to have a little guy who has at least got the right physical make up to have even a sniff (someone like a Langford would do well against heavyweights I think (but then I don't think a Ketchel would have a hope)

    a 193 Jones whose natural body weight is probably 30 pounds less than that had no problem whatsoever being in their with a 227 Ruiz - and was probably the better puncher in there (and Ruiz probably should've got the nod over Valuev) so would Jones beat Valuev even easier??

    James Toney similar to Sam Langford had the right physical beefy-ness (if thats a word?) for it as well - but then I could never have seen Michael Nunn ever having been able to cut it against any top heavy

    Keep drinking what yer drinkin though coz it damn sure is funny at times :good
     
  12. teeto

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Of course we don't need them. It is a known fact a stubby, sawed-off cruiserweight from the 1950's would reign supreme over the 6-4 240 pound behemoths of the 90's.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Can't give it a rest can we.
     
  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Unforgiven (by the way, is this from the film ? A great one.) if it is open , which makes sense, why has the heavyweight division been dominated by bigger and bigger men ? We have had excellent smaller fighters but none have dominated the heavyweight division?

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