Who can beat Christian Mijares?

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  1. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    Are you talking about handspeed or overall body movement(i.e head, upper body, feet movement)? Because Donaire is plenty fast with his hands, you saw his handspeed against Vic and Maldonado? His KO of Vic with that left hook counter is a testament to that. Add the blinding speed at which he countered Maldonado the whole fight onto a TKO victory. So I don't think Mijares edges Donaire in that department. He'l surely trouble Mijares with that speed of his.

    But if your talking about overall body movement, then yes Mijares has that one on the bag. But then again, movement isn't exactly Nonito's style. He waits for his opponent to make the first move and then counter him.

    Having said that though, I would still favor Mijares over Donaire at the moment. Donaire being soley a counterpuncher is not enough to beat Mijares IMO, and he also needs to improve his defense. Mijares, on the other hand, is a master of everything. I've watched him for quite a while now, and this guy is just phenomenal. Mijares would win against my boy Nonito, right now. Although my view could easily change depending on Nonito's perfomance against Arce. I believe he's still improving and capable of giving Mijares a run for his money in the near future.

    Guess we'll just wait and see.
     
  2. mexican legend

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    I am talking about overall speed. Mijares is way faster.
     
  3. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    Ok, fair enough.
     
  4. mexican legend

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    Donaire has a shot against Montiel though.
     
  5. PH|LLA

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    I agree with some of this post. Donaire is a great counterpuncher with incredible speed and accuracy but right now he is a little bit too 1-dimensional. I don't think his defense needs alot of work but rather his offence. He has a hard time getting off first and needs an opponent that will come to him and get in range. Against Mijares who's not really gonna give Donaire many counterpunching opportunities, Nonito will have alot of trouble.

    Nonito needs more experience against different styles on the world class level. After all he's only had 20 fights and only three of them were scheduled for 12 and only one scheduled for 10 rounds.

    Also he is way too inactive for someone in his physical prime
     
  6. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    Well, he tends to lower his guard and leave his face open to be hit. He did that quite often in the Maldonado fight and is the reason why Maldonado troubled him quite good in one of the early rounds.

    I'm not saying he has bad defense. Its actually quite good, but against someone of Mijares' level? I don't think its enough.
     
  7. mexican legend

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    Maldonado is that divisions gatekeeper.
     
  8. watsinango

    watsinango Active Member Full Member

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    That Maldonado fight against Donaire proved that Donaire stands a better chance to Mijares. Scoring a TKO against a draw for sure is one gauging point, but not totally the assurance of winning.

    A fight with MJ against Vic and a fight with Donaire vs. Muñoz will I think one big factor to decide. Unless this fight wont happen, I will always reserved my comment.
     
  9. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    of all the guys at 115, i think donaire has the chance of beating mijares, though a very slim one. i'm also thinking of z gorrez, this guy is also a tactician, only had problems with punchers. since mijares is not really a puncher, i believe that this match-up will be competitive.
     
  10. Sting

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    I'm not disputing that at all. But as you said, it doesn't mean Donaire will beat Mijares. I just think Donaire still needs to work more on his game. I don't think he has the tools to beat Mijares yet. I think he has the potential though, given his talent.
     
  11. jaco

    jaco Thomas Hearns Full Member

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    Good observations, I think his defence is good but it still has plenty of holes. Another thing I've noticed is that he doesn't really posses much head movement, instead he relies on his reflexes and especially his footwork to keep him out of trouble. This is all well and good when the punches are slow and wide (like from Maldonado/Darchinyan), but against are really quick, sharp puncher likes Mijares it could get him tagged a bit. Another flaw is that he often pulls straight back with his hands down, you saw it a few times against Maldonado. I'm sure he'll attempt to fix these things as he gets more experience, he has only had 20 fights after all.

    I'd also ike to see him increase his workrate and try to get his punches off first, at times he can get out-worked and be caught waiting for his opponents. Like Pharoah said, Mijares won't be coming right at him and giving him oppurtunites to counterpunch.
     
  12. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nonito Donaire seems like a good fighter around that weight I have seen Mijares fight once and he was counterpunching showed good defense but wasnt all that busy in terms of workrate. I have seen Nonito 2 or 3 times and have been very impressed with his punching power and offensive skills.
     
  13. Sting

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    :good I agree with you and rest of Pharaoh's points. More experience would definitely prepare him for the top level in 115. He has huge talent so I have faith that he'll be phenomenal in the future.
     
  14. watsinango

    watsinango Active Member Full Member

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    Donaire's electrolyte level was not fully tested in 12 rounds. His durability and speed to last in a longer distance is still a question. Most KO puncher in lower weights diminished in later rounds. I think it was only VD who can maintain and carry a power that would last up to the end of the bell, unfortunately his carelessness vs. Donaire twarthed him in the early round.
     
  15. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Montiel fo sure. HE is the biggest threat to Mijares.