Who can beat Christian Mijares?

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  1. mexican legend

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    If thats the case it comes down to the faster and better jab. Mijares has a better and faster jab. They are both great counter punchers. Donaire looks good against decent competition but I havent seen him with an elite fighter yet.
     
  2. Morrissey

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    Your posts make sense but can you just please change your avatar?

    Seriously, it is dizzying.:twisted:
     
  3. PH|LLA

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    When Donaire keeps his hands down, he is baiting his opponents.

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    Not to be mistaken for bad defence


    I know Mijares won't bite like this guy did, but still, its not bad D


    btw i like that this thread has gone 6 pages with no trolling even though ppl have different opinions. weird
     
  4. Sonny Carson

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    Donaire and slow shouldn't be in the same sentence.
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Mijares Is Sick At 115lbs...calderon Moving Up Maybe But I Think Hes To Small And Would Be Fighting Someone To Big...
     
  6. chimba

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    You guys are underestimating Donaire, this guy is one of the greatest amateur boxer in the US in the last 10 years.. His Am record is impeccable and his pedigree is unquestioned. This guy was busting asses at the time when Mijares was losing to an unknown. Too bad he got robbed in the Olym trials against Viloria.

    He shows explosiveness in that ring, his power and speed (yeah this guys freakily fast, yes faster than Mijares geez) is there..He gets too cocky at times though and keeps his hands down way too often. One of the most versatile left hooks in the game, can throw it any way, the kid can box and yet reading in this forum, you would think that this guy was some stiff lol. Again one of the most decorated US amateur in the last 10 years.
     
  7. hellblazer

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    Gerry Peñalosa
    Nonito Donaire
     
  8. mexican legend

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    He aint slow but I think he is slow compared to Mijares.
     
  9. pejevan

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    Same thing could be said of Mijares unless you consider Arce an elite fighter.

    Beisdes he does not have to be fancy fast in the mold of Calderon or PBF because he does not need to - he seldom gets hit. Watch the Maldonado fight and try to count how many times Maldo was able to connect or even the Darchi or the one also against another Armenian Harutyunan (spelling not sure but it is in youtube). That is what is simply called effective aggression. Nothing fancy but effective like dropping an atomic bomb.

    Mijares likes to jab because he wins fights by outpointing opponents whereas Donaire seldom uses it to set up his wicked left . That is why Mijares has to throw a faster jab. But if Donaire fights uses his jab as Mijares, then he could also throw fast jabs. Luckily for the not so lover of the "sweet science", Donaire always intends to KO his opponents in all his fights (which is entertaining from a fan's perspective).
     
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    Arce was undefeated for a while when Mijares beat him. He beat the WBA champion in Munoz and Navarro is a good win. Donaire hasn't fought in this weight class yet and has a win over Vic and good win against that guy in his last fight. Still untested IMO.
     
  12. pejevan

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    Arce is good but elite? Anybody with a decent boxing skill could outbox Arce and even Hussein was able to outbox him in some spurts. Plus, that was the 3rd fight of ARCE at 115 superfly and he was the naturally smaller man in that fight. Arce is a durable, come forward boxer who uses his face as a blocking tool. Any arce fight you see is like watching a bloodfest. Munoz is good but not even an elite. Lost twice to Martin Castillo (No need to elaborate on this guys record), Navarro was the guy who lost to Kirilov (the same guy starched by Darchi in 5). And Navarro was even downed in the third by the light hitting Kirilov (which Mijares was not able to do).

    Resumewise, they are almost the same. To say that Mijares fought the elite while Donaire did not is totally erroneous simply because there is really no elite in that weight group except themselves. THis is not a A beat B and B beat C, then A beat C scenario. Or because A performed better than B against C, then A beats B. However, to pull OUT OF THE AIR a genraliztion that Mijares beats Donaire and everybody else based on perceived performance while neglecting to give credit to other fighters performance on the same sets of opponent is Nuthugging.

    As of this day, the fact remains that Donaire totally dominated his opponents in very convincing manner. Likewise, Mijares was able to do that to his opponents, albeit in a different style. If the two were to meet, whoever would impose his style on the other would win. The fight is a toss-up. for me but I would put my bet on Donaire.
     
  13. mexican legend

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    Would you agree that Mijares has faced the better competition than Donaire? Also I have to see Donaire in this weight class first to make my further assumptions on the fight. I think he has a chance but IMO not a great one.
     
  14. pejevan

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    Mijares fought more opponents (3) who are good but not elite (contrary to what the previous post was exaggerating) while Donaire had 1 (darchi) in his resume. One common opponent in Maldonado. But as to better quality of opponents, I doubt it. It is just that Donaire has 20 fights while Mijares has more than 30 already. It is just the number but not the quality.

    Many would see Darchi as a limited fighter yet he was an effective fighter. Prior to Donaire fight, he was undefeated with near perfect KO ratio. Lots of limitation but effective, similar to any that Mijares faced. Elite? Dissect how Arce fights and you would also list probably more number of faults. One thing is going great about arce is that he has Margarito-esque chin with very decent power (although Darchi would have more). Navarro and Munoz are ok fighetrs who all lost when their boxing life is on the line. Great fighters but exactly not elite
     
  15. pejevan

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    Donaire is quite big for 115. At 112 he is a giant. So I think he will do good. He had not fought in this weight division but I am sure that he will carry his power. Besides there is not much competition in these weight classes aside from the names that we kept on repeating.