Who can beat Kelly Pavlik?

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  1. mexican legend

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    LOL.
     
  2. TFFP

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    "Way better"?

    In what respect? Could you be any less specific?
     
  3. Slothrop

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    Sinan Samil Sam.
     
  4. mexican legend

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    He has crazy power not to mention he has the reach. I think his punch output will give anyone problems. I think I would favor Joe if he was a little younger but he is older now and I think Pavlik wins.
     
  5. mexican legend

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    Right and I bet he can drop him with one punch.
     
  6. TFFP

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    He doesn't have crazy power. He has heavy hands that combined with the high work-rate you mention wear guys down. Take a look at how he knocked out Taylor/Miranda for the evidence.

    Work-rate can be offset, by a defensively sound fighter that can counter well and has the power to make him wary. His defence is sloppy. He's quite slow. He isn't "way better" in many respects, and there are flaws there that suggest he "can" lose to many guys, but he could also beat them.
     
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    Slow and sloppy??? Come on he aint fast but his punches are text book stuff and he does a great job throwing shots down the pipe. To say that is stupid. He doesn't have great defense but he makes it up with his height.
     
  8. slapsSOgood

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    height makes up for bad defense now?

    stop nuthugging. you have to admit JC would be the favourite in a match with KP
     
  9. TFFP

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    Why does he make up for bad defence with his height? Not really, his defence is still bad, but he'll get away with it a lot at middleweight as its tough for a guy to get inside his reach to exploit it. Not to mention most of them don't have the quality to do so, except Abraham.

    At 168 you are forgetting he ain't gonna be huge. Maybe a bit taller and longer, but skinner too. The only thing that is stupid is to suggest he definitely beats all these guys, he could do, but he might not.
     
  10. Andre

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    Calzaghe an Kessler i'd pick to beat him handily, possibly Hopkins.
     
  11. mexican legend

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    Seeing how Pavlik destroys his victims by Ko and Calzaghe trys to slap people to death I would think Pavlik will be the favorite.
     
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    I think he has the pop. Look at his KO percentage. I am sure he will have power and I know it will deminish once he goes up in weight but I think he will win against the top guys.
     
  14. Tom_Tocca

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    I don't think that Bute would beat him as he is a bit to tentative (like Taylor in their rematch) and therefore would get beaten on points or even KO'd late...

    Kessler has a good shot if he comes in shape prior JC vs. Pavlik and Abraham could very well KTFO him...still Pavlik has also a very good if not better shot to beat him (on points, that is)...therefore, Kelly is not unbeatable at 160 nor 168...
     
  15. mexican legend

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    Kessler has decent boxing skils with a lot of power. He has a punchers chance against the Ghost.