Who can beat Sonny Liston at the age of 22 or younger like Ali did?

lets be fair, Liston was an OLD ass man in terms of combat sports by the time his first bout with Ali came around. Nonetheless, still an impressive feat by Ali.

Also the only other person who couldve possibly replicated that feat is Mike Tyson at 20, when he was grinding heavyweight wins he was a monster and i could definitely see him slipping a dynamic jab from Liston and hitting a nasty combo. Their height differences may change the outcome too because mike cant do much besides body shots, and with Liston having been beat from childhood he likely could eat a lot of shots. Id give mike the win 3/10 times.

 

Foreman, FOTC Frazier, Dempsey, Holyfield maybe Tyson.

 

Tyson of course. Tyson was very arguably the best 22 and under HW ever.

 

Tyson has a 3/10 chance of beating liston at BEST

 

Not taking anything away from Ali, but I see several competitive twentysomething youngbloods beating an aging tired, faded, unmotivated 1964 Liston.

Kingston Foreman, FOTC Frazier, Joe Louis of Schmelling II, Holyfield, Tyson, maybe even Tokyo Douglas takes down the old tired bear.

 

A 22 year old Mike vs the Liston that Ali faced? It wouldn't have been a "phantom" punch that would have put Liston down.

 

FotC Frazier was 27. At 22, he was barely getting out of the second round with Bonavena. At 22, Holy was a light heavy with about two months' experience.

Foreman had beaten Chuvalo and might have been interesting. Don't know enough about Dempsey. Tyson would have had a good shout. He was much quicker and had enough power to give Sonny pause. By 1964, with his appetite for boxing dimming, Sonny might not have fancied taking what Mike dished out early on and fighting through.

 

What about Joe Louis at age 22?

 

Maybe, if he doesnt get into the golf and the high life. The Louis of the Max Baer fight was barely 21. He is not a bad choice at all.

 

Wtf? You saying 22 year old Tyson who was probably at the peak of his abilities at that age has only a 3 in 10 chance of beating the old as Jesus Liston who quit on his stool against Clay in 1963 an then in the rematch against the now renamed Ali, in the very first round, folded an collapsed to the canvas like he was shot by a sniper?

Man, you gotta be trolling here?

 

22 years old Louis beat Max Bear, Carnera, Levinsky and Uzcudun so I would pick him to beat Liston at that age.

 

Mike Tyson

 

Like the spring blossoms on the cherry tree, the blooming of Liston's status exaggerates to superhero before deflating to tomato can as the seasons change. I have watched this swing 4 or 5 times on this board and am forced to convince people he was a viable top 20 heavy at one point then walk them off the ledge as they want to make him Top 3.

The tides of nature are a beautiful thing to behold.

 

Please stop, you admitted in another post to only having watched boxing for 2 months.. Watch a bit more before saying this stuff