All you need to know is that Pavlik gets KOed by Johnson if he fought him at 175 and Dawson won. If you want to debate that, then anybody, please tell me how Pavlik outboxes Johnson, because he surely won't KO him.
Since he spent most of his career defeating ham an eggers, it's probably too late. Beating up past prime greats doesn't garner respect either, ask those who still **** on Pac. Joe C will be popular for "What if" scenarios where his biggest fans can give him the benefit of the doubt, but in terms of beating top fighters and actual accomplishments, he's sorely lacking in that department. And now it seems it's a MW he'll possibly be fighting next. I'd much rather see him vs. Dawson, Tarver or Johnson. Don't think we'll get any of those though.
Holy hell Yeah, I want to debate how Pav would do right now against the top 175ers.:rofl :rofl I just am amused at all the folks that made it quite clear that Dawson LOST his last fight, now saying he's the only fight for the mighty Joe.:yep
Wow....a Lt HW beats a MW? No way.... BTW... Joe C and Kessler lose to Johnson as well. At least they're closing in weight.
Even had the decision gone Glen's way, it wouldn't change a thing. Dawson would still be the best fight out there, and most creditable (among true fans, certainly not the casual HBO fan) for Calzaghe, far better than Pavlik.
Amy lost all cred with me claiming it was Team Miranda that pulled out of the Kessler fight. She has to know better. Gone to the trolls I'm afraid. :-(
Im making a point that Dawson is a harder challenge for Joe than Pavlik, a much harder challenge. Dawson could actually win.
Sure. Calzaghe and Kessler hate guys that come right at them, even thoug that's what both have shown the most success with stylistically.