Who could beat Henry Armstrong P4P?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by dpw417, Dec 15, 2007.


  1. Manassa

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    I didn't mean technical skills. I used the word 'ability' to make sure you knew I wasn't talking about accomplishments, not to separate skill from strength. So, was he as good a fighter as the others?
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    Well it seems we are just talking pure effectiveness and difficulty to beat. Yeah, i would have to put him on the top shelf. Given the sheer amount of fights in such a short time and the degree of difficulty against him both in ring and out, yep.
     
  3. Manassa

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    I think so too. In terms of historical standouts, Benny Leonard, Joe Gans and Harry Greb should join them (and maybe Sam Langford) as the real, top elite. I find it harder to rate modern talents like Pernell Whitaker and Roy Jones Jr.
     
  4. MotorCityCobra

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    At FW I'd take Pep to possibly beat him, and even Saddler is a tough match. At LW Whitaker and Duran, as well as Ike Williams. Those are just guys his size.

    So on a P4P basis, yeah quite a few more.
     
  5. brown_bomber

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    i was watching the second fight henry had wid ambers, was a abosulte harsh decision awarding ambers the fight on the topic of beating armstrong p4p i agree with motorcity cobra maybe pep would and possibly saddler
     
  6. Sweet Pea

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    I pretty much agree with this. I'd favor Saddler at Featherweight, and guys like Sanchez, Arguello, Pep, Pedroza, etc are very tough matchups as well. At 130, possibly Floyd and guys of that nature, at 135 Whitaker, Duran, Williams, etc.

    He was quite beatable, but still an amazing fighter.
     
  7. Stonehands89

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    Measuring "ability" is a bit subjective but I will take it to mean his ability to compete and win. I consider the prime Armstrong to be among the most hellish of anyone to fight. His prime was necessarily shorter than say the boxer-puncher or especially the puncher, but when he was in stride, he rivalled any of the most formidable great fighters on their great nights.

    Therefore, I'd place him at the elite level, and perhaps even above Duran and Charles.