Who could beat Mike Tyson in his prime?

Brennan would slay any version of Michael Spinks. ANY VERSION!!!

 

Cool story, Bro!

 

DEONTE WILDER. KOs Tyson. Maybe in 1 round. "GOODNIGHT SWEET PRINCE" After the fight Tyson nuthuggers worldwide commit Harry Carey. The world is a better place.

 

Actually, Tyson is exactly the sort that can beat Deontay. It's too dangerous to outbox the Wilder. As he said, he only needs to win 2 seconds. You need someone going in for the kill with speed and no reverse gear. Hope you can catch him still getting his distance.

 

I would bet on Bombsquad! Actually all heavy fights or fights period should be in 10 ft rings to insure immediate violence. No bull****. Let's see right now.

 

All that boxing. Smiling. Pernel Whitaker game bull**** is for the birds. Toe the line and throw hands.

 

Every fight like rd 1-9 of Castillo vs Corralles

 

I wish bro.

 

It's why I like Wilder. KOs! It seems everyone else ends in decisions. I hate that t a p. Tap. Bring the pain man! Make it life or death. That's what is advertised. Why I loved Joe Frazier. Full speed ahead. Every second. Your head on the shield or his. No backing off. Right here and now every second. EVERY MOTHER****ING SECOND YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR YR LIFE VS JOE. Wouldn't slow down and get frustrated like Tyson and set the cruise control. Not Joe! We live or die RIGHT here RIGHT now!

 

Dont you guys ****ing agree that is what we are here for?

 

Wilder is what he is. He goes for the KO, nothing less. He'll get outboxed but finds a way. It's good stuff, especially few and far between in these days.

 

I weigh up each fight/upset and judge it on it's merits according to what i think. I don't automatically fob it off but nor do i necessarily take it strictly at face value.

Tyson was a HUGE favorite against Holyfield and was still favored in the return. Do you see me making excuses for Tyson? At that stage of his career Holyfield was just too good - the better man. Tyson was in superb shape in the rematch and went hard for a while but still got no-where. I also don't make excuses for Hagler when heavily favored against SRL. Leonard was simply the better man that night.

Has anyone ever seen excuses from me per Hearns - Barkley? Hearns was heavily favored and probably my favorite fighter. This is one of your cases where one guy probably did have the beating of another, well he certainly did that night. Likewise i give Hill no room in his loss to Hearns. Tommy was too good.

I don't accept Foreman's 37 excuses per the Ali fight when massively favored.

So it's a case by case basis for me.

I am exaggerating for effect. I'm certain you know exactly what i was getting at.

 

Yes they do. As i said in the prior post i don't automatically accept anything. I weigh it up. Others do the same. You accept very little to nothing, i accept more.

Fighters aren't machines, they can't be spot on every time they step into the ring. Some go off the rails and it is very obvious.

When fighters emphatically right their initial wrong like Lewis did against Rahman it's blatantly obvious the deal was real.

Tyson would have had more distractions than just about any of them. Not only was he the most scrutinzed boxer of his time, he may have been the most scrutinized person on earth. He didn't exactly have the most educated background or balance to take it in his stride either. Who would have been able to? I have a feeling he wasn't far off being out of control as it went on. He wasn't exactly a stable individual.

Tyson may have had some problems all along but there is no way the Tyson that walked into of the ring from Berbick thru to Spinks (the Rooney period basically) was anything like the Tyson who walked in against Douglas. Not even remotely.

This is coming from someone that doesn't accept that the Rooney Tyson was the be all and end all. I nominated 5 fighters i full well think would beat him and another i give a great chance. There's a few others i think would be minor underdogs.

What i do believe is that the Tyson that lost to Douglas was a far cry from the Rooney version. Hell, i think the version that beat Ruddock was substantially better. Again, i think the Rooney version would be beaten by a handful or more guys anyway. Probably. Maybe it is more, maybe it is less.

 

Lets be honest - Wilder was boring as **** until the knockout the other night. He was super careful, unwilling to engage and almost comatose until the KO. For a guy of such size his jab was pitiful. He was being comfortably outboxed and outskilled by an old man albeit one who can box quite well. The actual fight was boring.

I fully accept this is the way Wilder fights (obviously for a reason, that will quite likely become apparent down the track). He just frigs around and stays out of harms way until he lands that huge right. It's extremely effective for him even if Fury should have got the decision.

That right hand is an immense equalizer and he has complete confidence in it. His place in the pantheon of punchers however is still to be determined. No doubt he is one helluva puncher and things will crystallize after Fury and unification fights if he makes it that far.

I never once thought he wasn't going to find the mark the other night. I expected him to pick up the pace as it got toward the last few rounds but it turned out he didn't need to. I have to admit i also thought there was a chance Ortiz might get him clean with that left hand and have a chance himself. I would not have been surprised to see Ortiz hurt him then get ko'd himself.

So many seem to think Ortiz made that one little mistake and if he didn't he would have won. Not a chance for mine. He had no idea where that right came from. Wilder has straightened it out in recent history and it's more dangerous and versatile now.

 

Cheers mate you are making solid posts and throwing me different angles and views as well.

I totally agree Tyson was one dimensional and had no plan B really. Of course it took a helluva effort to survive plan A. Under Rooney it was pretty impressive the way he stuck to the task and outpointed Smith and Tucker by such a long way. Big potentially awkward guys for someone of Tyson's physical stature.

I always knew Douglas had loads of talent and i do mean loads. I'm not trying to make it better for Tyson either. Douglas looked great against Tucker until he pulled a bit of a heartlige. He also impressed against Page. He was huge, had excellent handspeed, extremely good fundamentals and he (sorry Griffo) had good power. It's common knowledge his heart wasn't in boxing and it often showed. He deserved his day in the spotlight as he fought at a very high level and was for once in his life immensely determined. He fought one heckuva fight.